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Subsoiling a field

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Soldier Tom

10-14-2006 17:19:47




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Got a field that I am trying to "bring back up" from having horses pick it to nothing a few years back. I manured it for a couple years, then just let it fallow for about 5. There is a decent stand of grass, but a better stand of sage brush, and a pretty good black berry patch. I have an old subsoiler that dad talked about using long ago to "stabilize his pastures" I want to give it a shot on that back field. Thing is, I have never done it, nor seen it done, and dad (now over 80) can"t exactly recall how he did it. The soil is kinda shaley on top, don"t know about underneith yet. It is on a slope so I don"t much want to plow it all up and go from scratch. Not ready to seed it fresh again either just yet altho it may come to that eventually.
There, long story, I am asking for advice. Thanks much folks!
~Walk in peace~
Soldier Tom

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Nebraska Cowman

10-15-2006 06:07:33




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 Re: Subsoiling a field in reply to Soldier Tom, 10-14-2006 17:19:47  
If it has been idle for 5 years I'd say it has pretty well "stablized" itself. I wouldn't be too keen on tearing it up. I'd concentrate on getting rid of the undesirable growth and not disturb the grass.



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mtgummibear

10-15-2006 05:28:01




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 Re: Subsoiling a field in reply to Soldier Tom, 10-14-2006 17:19:47  
I have the same sort of situation with some hard pack Georgia clay. I ran a subsoiler through it a few days ago and while I"m sure the end result will be good, right now it"s a mess.

Brought up big clumps of rock hard clay. I should probably have waited for some more rain because it has been dry, but wanted to try and put down some rye grass for winter cover/pasture.

Right now the piece I did is a mess because I need a good pasture harrow or cultipacker to break it up and i don"t have either.

Just letting you know that you are likely to end up with lots of clumps and lumps, but like I said, I think the end result will be good.

Larry

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Bill(Wis)

10-15-2006 05:21:02




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 Re: Subsoiling a field in reply to Soldier Tom, 10-14-2006 17:19:47  
You might have to hog down the sage brush and berry bushes first. I'd try to chop them up real good because the stems will want to wrap around the subsoiler shank/s. Unless it is equipped with coulter/s. Discing might do that just as good as a cutter. Just hook up the subsoiler and go out and give it a try. I have a Brillion 3 pt subsoiler with three parabolic shanks that go in 16 to 18 inches. Shanks are 1" wide and have 2" wide shovels. They disturb very little on the surface. Dry soil is better than wet. You get better shattering down deep. Too wet will result in a "plastic" effect around the shank and shovel.

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DAN9-Midwest

10-15-2006 16:15:42




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 Re: Subsoiling a field--Bill in reply to Bill(Wis), 10-15-2006 05:21:02  
Bill--What does it take to pull that three parabolic shank Brillion? Wondering about HP and two or FWD. thanks



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wayne from wi

10-14-2006 18:48:34




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 Re: Subsoiling a field in reply to Soldier Tom, 10-14-2006 17:19:47  

Where is this land, and what are you hoping to grow on it? Depending on a lot of things, maybe no tillage, and/or a crop like plowdown clover (as example) might be best to bring the ground to life. Just my thoughts, Wayne



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Glen in TX

10-14-2006 18:40:16




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 Re: Subsoiling a field in reply to Soldier Tom, 10-14-2006 17:19:47  
If just a single shank ripper you don't have to rip it out that close. 5ft. or even better every 8 - 10 ft. is enough. If it throws out too many clods wait for more moisture or space it farther apart. Can always drag a harrow or cultipacker across the clods later too or drag a heavy bar or pipe or chain behind the chisel ripper. When we irrigated grass and had a large ripper chisel we pulled off two shanks in between that were spaced every 20 inches to only run down the furrows on 40 inch rows every other row at 80 inches apart and that worked well but it was on irrigated too and just how we did it.

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