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brandon a

10-15-2006 12:27:10




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Does anyone make a battery operated block heater? It's getting colder and the old 3000 isn't wanting to start. It has a regular block heater but we don't have electricity at the farm. Does anyone make a battery operated one?




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135 Fan

10-15-2006 19:16:08




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 Re: Block heater question in reply to brandon a, 10-15-2006 12:27:10  
I have a generator and a kerosene reddy heater. For a cheaper alternative you could use a propane construction heater that doesn't need power. A lot of people use tiger torches but it is a good idea to put the end of the torch in a piece of pipe to contain the flame. I used about a 3 ft. length of stove pipe with a 90 degree elbow on the end to start my Hino truck before I got my heater. Stove pipe is too lite though, Thinner wall steel pipe is better. Just make sure to block it up so you don't start a ground fire. Hope this helps. Dave in Alberta. PS. It's not uncommon to hit -40 degrees here.

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buickanddeere

10-15-2006 19:09:08




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 Re: Block heater question in reply to brandon a, 10-15-2006 12:27:10  
It isn't practical. Where would you mount the 1/2 ton of batteries? And their 300amp alternator would stall a 3000 at idle speeds. Either LP or an el-cheapo generator. As previously stated a 75F battery makes or breaks you. 5W30 synthetic in the crankcase And synthetic hydraulic/trans oil will help. Are you holding the clutch pedal down when cranking?



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135 Fan

10-15-2006 19:08:11




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 Re: Block heater question in reply to brandon a, 10-15-2006 12:27:10  
I have a generator and a kerosene reddy heater. For a cheaper alternative you could use a propane construction heater that doesn't need power. A lot of people use tiger torches but it is a good idea to put the end of the torch in a piece of pipe to contain the flame. I used about a 3 ft. length of stove pipe with a 90 degree elbow on the end to start my Hino truck before I got my heater. Stove pipe is too lite though, Thinner wall steel pipe is better. Just make sure to block it up so you don't start a ground fire. Hope this helps. Dave

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mike46

10-15-2006 16:18:08




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 Re: Block heater question in reply to brandon a, 10-15-2006 12:27:10  
Not sure what tractor the 3000 is but I guess it doesn't matter. Won't cure 100% of your problems but a warm battery is a start to solving it. Take out the battery(s) when you go home and bring them back warmed up, maybe wrap them in a blanket in the cab of the truck, etc. That, combined with whatever little trick someone else can come up with increases your cranking power an amazing amount. If you have ever seen a temperature chart and the % efficiency of cranking power at various temperatures you'll see what I mean.

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jmixigo

10-15-2006 15:33:28




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 Re: Block heater question in reply to brandon a, 10-15-2006 12:27:10  
I ain't from the cold belt.
What about a power inverter on yore pick up (or what ever you take to the farm) to power up the 110V block heater you got? Seems to me a 12V unit mite drain the battery some-just when you need it most.



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GeorgeH

10-15-2006 14:13:18




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 Re: Block heater question in reply to brandon a, 10-15-2006 12:27:10  
Just a tad pricey.....



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jdemaris

10-15-2006 14:06:14




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 Re: Block heater question in reply to brandon a, 10-15-2006 12:27:10  
As other's mentioned, the propane-fired block heaters work well but they cost a small fortune. We had a few logger-customers that usually had their crawlers or skidders left in woods - with no electricity. Most had quick-couplers on their heater-hoses on their pickup trucks. Get to the job - plug the truck hoses into the crawler or skidder hoses - and let them share coolant for 15 minutes (or sometimes longer). Those that didn't used a lot of ether. In your situation - you'd probaby be better off getting a small portable gas-driven generator and hook it to the tractor when needed. That's what I do with a lot of my stuff that's parked far from power. Just make sure you've got - a generator big enough to run your heater. Some tank heaters are 900 watts, some 1500, etc. Frost plug heaters are usually low amp and take a long time - sometimes they're only 100 watt. I've got a little Chinese 1500 watt generator that only weighs 50 lbs. It works great on the smaller tank heaters - but not on a 1500 watt or larger unit. For bigger heaters I use my Coleman 1850 watt generator. When hooked to a tractor with a 1500 watt heater, is usually takes about 20 minutes to get it warmed up enough to start on a below-zero morning.

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brandon a

10-15-2006 12:52:00




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 Re: Block heater question in reply to brandon a, 10-15-2006 12:27:10  
It has the regular full size diesel battery



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RAB

10-15-2006 12:44:50




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 Re: Block heater question in reply to brandon a, 10-15-2006 12:27:10  
How big a battery do you have? Fairly impractical enough to be little demand, so unlikely a manufacturer would give time to make one, I would think.
How do you get there? If by vehicle, plumb in some disconnectable lines from the engine and circulate some coolant for a short while?
RAB



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Drill

10-15-2006 12:38:21




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 Re: Block heater question in reply to brandon a, 10-15-2006 12:27:10  
Iv'e never heard of a battery powered one, but up here in Canada the boys in the bush use propane fired ones. Work like a charm, just fire them up at night, and your machine is tasty warm in the morning.



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Drill

10-15-2006 12:42:09




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 Re: Block heater question in reply to Drill, 10-15-2006 12:38:21  
Here's a site for one:



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