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joe moore

11-07-2006 09:53:01




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I have a HD 3 Allis Chalmers crawler...DIESEL..that is my problem locating a heating method to warm engine during the winter..otherwise in cold weather it will not budge as the engine is tight..who has the expertise..would appreciate direction..all display heaters are not feasible...




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davpal

11-07-2006 21:14:41




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 Re: Heating engine in reply to joe moore , 11-07-2006 09:53:01  
They sell magnetic block heaters that you stick on the oil pan and plug them in. I have seen them on ebay and they are really simple and slick. Buy two and stick one on the oil pan and one on the side of the engine block and plug them in the night before. You should be good to go in the morning. Good luck. I actually ran the salamander on my 3208 cat the other day to warm it up a little before I tried to start it. Worked pretty good too.

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joe moore

11-07-2006 21:34:48




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 Re: Heating engine in reply to davpal, 11-07-2006 21:14:41  
so far I have 3 replies and yours is the best,,,and the simplest the suppliers are sleep up in the northeast corner of connecticut...it is 12:30PM and I shall be on ebay in the morning..so far I have found the forum always knowing how to solve a problem...I will be in touch .....thanks to all as they are in the league with the best for ideas..



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paul

11-07-2006 20:57:28




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 Re: Heating engine in reply to joe moore , 11-07-2006 09:53:01  
If 'in the hose'doesn't work - should - you can put 2 quick attaches on somewhere, & tie into your pickup (quick couples their too)with extension hoses. Curculate the hot water from your truck through it.

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IA Roy

11-07-2006 20:32:13




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 Re: Heating engine in reply to joe moore , 11-07-2006 09:53:01  
I have found that the heaters that go in a frost plug hole are smaller wattage, but do as good a job or better than the tank heaters on the side of the engine. The heat is inside the water jacket where it is most effective.



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jdemaris

11-07-2006 15:10:07




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 What's the big deal? in reply to joe moore , 11-07-2006 09:53:01  
Guess I don't understand the problem. Just buy a generic tank-type block-heater and install it. My HD4 has one. My neighbor's two D15s have them - and they have the same engine as the HD3.



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Yugrotcart

11-07-2006 13:20:32




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 Re: Heating engine in reply to joe moore , 11-07-2006 09:53:01  
I lived in the arctic and found that a oil pan heater works great. You just remove a couple oil pan bolts and it straps on. Also an inline heater in the lower rad hose is a good idea.

Paul



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Leland

11-07-2006 12:15:49




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 Re: Heating engine in reply to joe moore , 11-07-2006 09:53:01  
Try using shells synthetic rotella this will help the old beast turn over somewhat easier , If you have a shed park it inside as we had for a 933 and throw a tarp over it and fire up the torpedo heater this will thaw it out in a few hours .



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noncompos

11-07-2006 12:04:22




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 Re: Heating engine in reply to joe moore , 11-07-2006 09:53:01  
FWIW, brother was in Alaska for awhile,years ago when it was still cold; gas engines had "headbolt heaters" (never saw one, myself), as well as the various waterhose heaters and dipstick heaters that warmed the oil. Should be a whole array available through parts houses.
I used a dipstick heater on a truck with starting problems when it got cold; worked beautifully.
If power not available, can something warm be slipped under the pan to warm the oil, being careful not to cook it??

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JT

11-07-2006 11:23:35




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 Re: Heating engine in reply to joe moore , 11-07-2006 09:53:01  
Funny you posted this, A man that used to build these tractors came in and we were discussing these tractors. Anyway, he told me there is not heater put on by Allis Chalmers. What I would do is get a an inline heater that would go in an lower radiator hose.



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mjbrown

11-07-2006 10:16:24




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 Re: Heating engine in reply to joe moore , 11-07-2006 09:53:01  
There has to be heaters you can tee into a radiator hose I would think. Assumes it's near electricity.



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