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mss3020

11-22-2006 07:12:09




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I have recently bought a skidloader. (didnt want to put a bucket on my tractor) anyway..I seem to see alot of these that have had fire damage. Does anyone know why these things catch fire, anything I need to keep heads up on as to not have this happen to me.

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Scott




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Hugh MacKay

11-23-2006 02:17:38




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 Re: Skidsteer fires in reply to mss3020, 11-22-2006 07:12:09  
Skid steer loaders, just as a result of their design catch a lot of debris down around the engine, and in a farm situation much of it quite flamable. Sticks, tree twigs limbs, straw, manure, etc. Because that compartment is quite small, with almost as much power train down in there as most 40-50 hp tractors, that debris soon piles against the engine. Even without oil it gets very dry, and very easily ignighted. Add oil to that factor and you can have a fire hard to put out.

It is a must that you keep the debris cleaned out of the engine and hydraulic compartment. I used my two skid loaders for cleaning out barns and feeding silage. I found that combination of manure and silage to be as dangerous as anything. It will acumulate in layers of 1/2" each day and the engine-hydraulic heat dries it out very quickly. My machines had holes in the corners of the stump pan. I found between those 4 holes and back door, using a garden hoe, I could keep it cleaned out usually weekly. Some times that was more often than necessary, but I've also had a big clump of corn silage fall off back of bucket, and you cleaned it out right away. Volume of debris is never the same, just don't let it build up beyond top of oil pan.

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NC Wayne

11-22-2006 18:03:29




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 Re: Skidsteer fires in reply to mss3020, 11-22-2006 07:12:09  
Can't remember which ones but I've seen several of the Bobcat machines where the muffler is wrapped in a laywer of insulation with a second metal layer outside of that. With the insulation against the wall of the actual muffler it tends to hold moisture and eventually rusts through. Te exhaust then blows it's way through the insulation to the outside which usually means it's exhausting in the engine compartment. I saw a customers machine about a year ago that this had happened to. Before the problem was noticed it had partially melted the plastic air cleaner as well as several other plastic parts in the general area. Between that and the fuel leaking from the return lines (the problem I was actually called about)it's a wonder it hadn't caught fire already. The other posts hit the nail on the head also with the oil soaked limbs, leaves, etc in the belly pan. Many machines, from the smallest to the largest, have suffered the same fate and burned out from a stray spark caused by a short, exhaust, or whatever. The main thing is keep it clean, it'll look better, and last longer because it'll run cooler and small problems/leaks are alot easier to spot and have repaired before they become big problems..... .

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JMS/MN

11-22-2006 13:50:20




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 Re: Skidsteer fires in reply to mss3020, 11-22-2006 07:12:09  
Skidloaders are very compact machines- hard to work on because of the 'closeness' of all parts. Trash of all kinds gets into small spaces, any oil leaks compound the problem. Poor maintenance causes fires. Oil leaks should be fixed now!, before any accumulation. If you need to add oil often, find the leak and fix it. It doesn't disappear into thin air- it's in the framework. Later models are easy to examine, remove a couple of bolts, tip up the cage, and the whole working area is exposed.

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kyhayman

11-22-2006 10:27:03




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 Re: Skidsteer fires in reply to mss3020, 11-22-2006 07:12:09  
Its not unusual for me to clean out 5 or more gallons of hydraulic oil mixed with ha, tree branches, twigs, manure, and dirt when I remove the belly pans on mine (once or twice a year at least). One good big spark into that and boom, got a fire.



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JT

11-22-2006 07:34:05




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 Re: Skidsteer fires in reply to mss3020, 11-22-2006 07:12:09  
Most fires on this type of equipemnt is from hydraulic oil leaks. They go un noticed or unfixed, then you have an oil fire. Another thing that can cause this debris getting caught up in it and then catching fire. Probably the biggest thing is to keep it clean, do PM frequently, then you should not have any fires.



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