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OT: Now I know what cold is.

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Uncle

12-29-2006 17:42:20




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I was working at a food distributor the other day. I had to go into the Ice Cream warehouse, (-32f). I just had to go to the back wall and back to the door.
I went in with just my work pants and short sleeve shirt. I notice real quick that it was cold but knew I would not be there long. I made it to the back wall and as I was headed for the door, the thoughts going through my head were that I would not make it.
Man that cold will get you down quick.
I have a new appreciation for my friends up north.
Brian

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mj

12-30-2006 20:16:30




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
The difference between -40 and -50: At 40 below you walk across the street to the mailbox in your housecoat and slippers to get the mail; at 50 below you don't come back. :>)



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Randy as in Randy-IA

12-30-2006 13:11:08




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
The coldest I was ever in was in Bozeman , Montana in 1980 I think it was . I was working at Big Sky down in Wyoming and was up visiting for the day but ended up spending the night . When I left Big Sky the temp wasn't to bad so I didn't dress for the weather . I owned a '64 Plymouth savoy with a slant 6 and three on the tree . In the morning the weather forecast called for temps no higher than -45 and it was -52 right then . I actually got the car started but it overheated within a few minutes of driving so I stopped in a service station for help ( anyone remember those ? ). The guy told me to pour hot water over the radiator to thaw it out so I did and it did . In the process I soaked my boots and I only had on one pair of cotton socks with leather hiking boots . But not being very mechanically inclined back then I didn't realize that the heater core was still frozen so with the ignorance of youth I turned the heater fan on the floor on high and took off for Big Sky a little over an hour away . It never did thaw out . My buddy wrapped up in a down sleeping bag but I couldn't do that so it wasn't long before the pain in my feet came and went . When I got up to the resort I parked in front of the dorms and went to get out and fell down because I couldn't feel my legs . I half crawled and was half drug up the stairs . I tried taking off my boots but they were frozen to my feet . I finally got them off but couldn't get my socks off so I got to the showers and stuck my feet under cold water . That was some serious pain ! My feet were probably just minutes from frostbite , they were already a newspaper white color . I lost a few layers of skin on my feet but no lasting damage to the toes or anything . It was hard to walk for a week or so . But I still love being cold ! ...Randy

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paul

12-30-2006 12:34:08




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
Has been to minus 30-something 2x in my life here in southern MN. Went snowmobiling one morrning in it, just to say I did.

I can function pretty good to -10 or -15. The few days every couple of years it drops to -20 or -25 things just don't go well for me. Seems too much. The furnace & tractors & water setup for the livestock seems designed for -15. Gets to be on the edge when it gets below that.

--->Paul

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wayne from wi

12-30-2006 10:21:10




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  

My coldest recollection was, I think 1995, here in Curtiss, Wisconsin. My thermometer went to -40, and that morning the mercury did not come up out of the bubble. I was supposed to deliver a load of hay that day. I got the truck started, but it jelled up in a couple minutes. The rubber boot around the shifter shattered like a dropped light bulb. Not much got done that day.



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Hard Knocks

12-30-2006 05:36:50




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
Used to work at Morton Frozen foods freezers were
minus 40 with a fan that blew about 20 MPH



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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

12-30-2006 05:11:38




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
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I am amazed companies or OSHA doesn't require or at least promote a simple personal alarm safety system or "PASS" type device worn by firefighters when entering this environment. When we go into a building we wear one. It sounds a loud alarm if we stop moving for more than a few seconds. Simply shaking it or moving resets it when it does go off. The newer versions don't allow the user to disable them while the air pack is buckled. The only thing faster than a firefighter in a burning building is one responding to a pass alarm that does not turn off. Does let everyone else know who is just standing around too :)

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Jeffcat

12-29-2006 22:47:12




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
Just remember that they use Ammonia in those chill systems! If you smell ANY thing you even think is not right; they tell you to run like He--! It will kill you in just a couple of gasps. I know a guy up near Allentown, PA who works in a meat plant. This place is like three stories and almost one city block of DDDEEEPPP freeze. Jeffcat



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Eldon (WA)

12-29-2006 20:46:32




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
Just out of college in Aberdeen, SD in the early 80's we didn't get above zero for 6 days in a row or above 32 for 6 weeks! I know that doesn't sound cold, but when you think about it there was no chance of any thaw or warmth for 6 weeks....I took the battery out of the car every night and put it in the basement to keep some cca in it! The wind chill was close to -70 every day! I had my grandma's '62 Chevy with '3 on the tree' when it got that cold all I had was 2nd and 3rd..... too stiff to get it in 1st or reverse. Most people left their cars running when in the store, bar, etc.

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Nebraska Cowman

12-30-2006 04:38:36




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Eldon (WA), 12-29-2006 20:46:32  
It was 1983



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Allan In NE

12-30-2006 04:50:42




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-30-2006 04:38:36  
That was the year it was so darned cold that the electric fences wouldn't produce any ozone and they wouldn't sing neither.

Hate it when that happens. :>)

Allan



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sd pete

12-30-2006 09:44:42




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Allan In NE, 12-30-2006 04:50:42  
yeah i hear ozones arent very tough! Maybe China will send over some tough ozones



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farmerjohninpa

12-29-2006 19:55:04




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
jumped in here quick with that "subject" title,,i thought uncle had just met my ex-wife !!



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Bryan in Iowa

12-29-2006 18:53:32




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
Was at uncle farm in North Dakota years back , saw -64 one night. actual temp , no wind chill. beer in pocket froze walking from car to house .



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37 chief

12-29-2006 18:47:53




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
I found out what cold was in 64. I joined the Navy and was sent to Great Lakes for boot camp in the winter, from Calif. Now that was cold. Spent some time in Japan. found out it snows there too, very cold. Just before I got out in 68 Next duty station would have been Adak Alaska,had I stayed in. I figured it was time to get out. Stan



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Coloken

12-29-2006 18:10:40




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
Grew up here in Colorado, seen may 40 below, but got to confess, coldest I ever was when standing on the ferry dock in NY city looking across at New Jersey with the salt spray in my face.



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old

12-29-2006 18:05:23




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
You think thats cold you should go to the artic circle, now thats cold. BTDT yep been up that way once. I was in a sub and we where 150 feet under water and frost would form on the inside of the sub even at 150 feet under. We couldn't surface because it was solid ice above us but it sure was cold inside that sub I was told it was around -60-80 out side of the sub

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lenray

12-30-2006 09:40:53




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to old, 12-29-2006 18:05:23  
hello old

that would be just about my worst nightmare--under water in a sub and then under ice.
That wouldn't be something many could do.



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old

12-30-2006 09:49:58




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to lenray, 12-30-2006 09:40:53  
Wasn't something I really enjoyed either but it was what I had to do at the time. I also didn't like not knowing if there would be a world left when we got back into post since we couldn't even radio home etc.



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Coldiron

12-29-2006 18:00:49




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
Uncle, I worked in a meat packing plant in Seattle for a few months 30 yrs ago. I had to go into a quick chill room -27 F with fans moving the air around at 20 mph. The wind chill chart shows that would have been around -57 F. One Sat. nite I fell on the icey floor and hit my head against the wall. Only myself and a night watchman at the gate were there. Cleaned my locker out & I quit the next day cause I could have froze to death in there and no one would have known till my relief came in and started to look for me 5 hours later. Here in N. Idaho it was -28 a couple of years ago and I was outside working in it, slowly and bundled up on a nice still day !

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Easy1

12-29-2006 20:41:41




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Coldiron, 12-29-2006 18:00:49  
We had a guy here in Michigan that was killed in a cold test chamber a few years back. He was working by himself, doing cold performance checks on engines, in a cold cell. He went into the cell (-60 ) to correct a sensor that wasn't working. He apparently passed out from the cold. The day shift guys found him the next morning, quite close to the door, frozen stiff. They think he was aware that something was wrong, and tried to get out, but just didn't make the door in time. He had protective clothing availible, choose not to wear it. Probably didn't realize how dangerous the cold can be.

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R. John Johnson

12-29-2006 17:50:02




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Uncle, 12-29-2006 17:42:20  
In my plentiful experience, I'd rather have extremely cold still air than a cold wind.

John



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KRUSS

12-30-2006 08:10:29




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to R. John Johnson, 12-29-2006 17:50:02  
Hopefully John R. Johnson will back me up on some of this. I find it very hard to believe that an actual air temp of -64 was achieved in the Dakotas. Check the weather archives. Yes, -10 F with a stiff east wind is harder to take than -40 calm. BTW it uaually is calm when it's -40. I have lived in Manitoba for 54 years. The coldest I have ever been was a week we spent at Mesa, Az. No place to get warm, and everybody pretending it was warm when it wasn't!! In Manitoba, our houses are warm.

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Birddog

12-30-2006 09:34:08




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to KRUSS, 12-30-2006 08:10:29  
Why do you doubt that?

I grew up in northern North Dakota and I remember plenty of times where it was 40 below and a couple of times it was 50 below.

Lots and lots of times that the wind was blowing and wind chill was over 100 below.

I don't doubt it a bit that somebody saw temperature get down to 64 below at one time or another.



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thejdman01

12-30-2006 12:25:01




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Birddog, 12-30-2006 09:34:08  
Some of the refrig units run on propane too watch for leaks



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KRUSS

12-30-2006 09:56:44




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Birddog, 12-30-2006 09:34:08  
The reason I doubt that -64 has ever officially been recorded is that it has never happened here 120 miles north of the 49 th. We are consistantly 6 to 12 degrees cooler than Minot, for instance. How many people own a thermometer that goes to -64 ?



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KRUSS

12-30-2006 10:15:39




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to KRUSS, 12-30-2006 09:56:44  
Try www.weatherbase.com for record hot and cold temps.



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Keith-OR

12-30-2006 12:50:31




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to KRUSS, 12-30-2006 10:15:39  
KRUSS, I am just curious, which temp measurement you are using, Centigrade or Fahrenheit???

Keith & Shawn



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KRUSS

12-30-2006 13:33:02




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 Re: OT: Now I know what cold is. in reply to Keith-OR, 12-30-2006 12:50:31  
I am using fahrenheit, but when it gets to -40 it is -40 either way.



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