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Chris in WI

02-21-2007 11:10:25




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How old does a bull need to be to be able to be used for breeding? I am asking because I have one that I am thinking will be borderline and want to know what your thoughts are.




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Hal/WA

02-22-2007 16:52:35




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 Re: bull question in reply to Chris in WI, 02-21-2007 11:10:25  
I think it depends on the bull, and if you need the count to be optimum.

When I was a teenager, we got a new Hereford bull. He was a good looking bull, but only about 8 months old when we got him. He went to work right away and various cows got bred.

When he was not quite a year old, I found that our largest Holstein milk cow was in heat, and the young bull was not having much success in trying to breed her. He tried over and over, but was too short and ended up falling over backward after he had mounted. The cow was very tame and used to being handled, so I put a halter on her and led her to the creek. The cow and I stood in the water and the bull stood on the creek bank and managed to complete what he was trying to do.

All of the calves we got from that bull were really good. I cannot say if he was 100% successful in getting all of the cows pregnant on the first try, but the Holstein did. My Dad was a little concerned about a few heifers that were bred earlier than they should have, but they carried their calves to term and did not seem to be damaged. Of course the bull grew a whole lot and the next year he didn't need any outside help. We kept him for 3 years and then sold him to a neighbor to continue to be used as a breeding bull. We got other Hereford bulls, but never got another one that was that young.

I would be hesitant to put a new, young bull out in a herd where there was an older and larger bull already there. They younger bull would probably come out second best in their contest which would almost certainly happen.

It also might depend on the breed. My experience with the young Hereford might be different than it would have been with another bull.

Could a young bull be injured by trying to breed when he was too young and small? I was concerned that my Hereford might injure himself when he fell off the Holstein, especially if he had made full contact, and fell sideways. But it obviously did not happen. He was fine, just a little frustrated!

I think if I had a young bull and also had cows that needed to be bred, I would go ahead and let him take a stab at it, so to speak. Good luck!

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Bill in Colo

02-21-2007 17:41:01




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 Re: bull question in reply to Chris in WI, 02-21-2007 11:10:25  
Semen test!!!!! !!! I have used and sold alot of yearling bulls over the years to be used. 12 months is marginal and 14 to 16 would be better, Simmental and Simmental X Red Angus



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Clint Youse MO

02-21-2007 12:22:59




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 Re: bull question in reply to Chris in WI, 02-21-2007 11:10:25  
We use a bull thatn is about 16-18 months on heifers that are fed daily Would not turn one out with cows one pasture until at least 2 years it is really a judgement call have him semen checked by the vet that may help



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Polish Mike

02-21-2007 11:29:00




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 Re: bull question in reply to Chris in WI, 02-21-2007 11:10:25  
I wouldn't breed one that's borderline (or even close to it)to begin with.



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RED ANGUS MAN

02-21-2007 11:16:33




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