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246/247 jd corn planter questions

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mike3320

03-07-2007 15:49:56




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i have a jd 246 corn planter. i am fixinging it up and am wondering if anyone knows the purpose of the hill drop setting. i understand how it works as far as dropping two or three cornels in on spot. but the spacing between them is so far im not sure why it would be used?




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flying belgian

03-07-2007 19:30:56




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 Re: 246/247 jd corn planter questions in reply to mike3320, 03-07-2007 15:49:56  
Hill dropping and check planting are two differant things. Hill dropping is based on the principal that nature knows best. When nature plants corn it plants a whole ear at a time causing several plants to grow from one spot.Farmers thought it is best to replicate nature for biggest yield so they hilldropped corn 3 or 4 kernals at a time. research has since showed it is better to space individual kernals for highest yeild. Check planting was done so that you set up a gridwork pattern of 4 kernals on 42 inch space and 42 inch wide row inableing you to cultivate both lenthways and crossways to get grass and weeds from both directions. You needed 42 inches for a horse to fit. I remember my Dad hilldropping corn up untill about 1965. He did it for "increased yield" and also because some believed it would stand better as one stalk in hill would support the other whereas individual stalks would be more apt to break off in high winds.

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Mike in KY is correct, Jo

03-07-2007 18:21:59




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 Re: 246/247 jd corn planter questions in reply to mike3320, 03-07-2007 15:49:56  
Mike in Ky is correct, Joe in Ne is thinking of the check wire not hill drop. Hill drop could be set foe 2-3 or 4 seeds per hill for 15", 20", 22", 28", 32", 33', or larger spacings. That putting the seeds in hills was like taking the hoe out and planting the corn by hand before the corn jobbers before the planters and the first planters were hand operated to drop the seeds in hills as it was too much work to open and close the seed mechinasim for a seed at each place when it took 2 people to operate a 2 row planter, one to drive the team and the other to do the planting moving a lever side to side and back for each hill of corn.

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Leroy

03-07-2007 18:23:53




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 Re: 246/247 jd corn planter questions in reply to Mike in KY is correct, Jo, 03-07-2007 18:21:59  
Started typing in wrong place and forgot to erase



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Joe in Ne

03-07-2007 16:14:25




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 Re: 246/247 jd corn planter questions in reply to mike3320, 03-07-2007 15:49:56  
I have seen them used in Nebraska. As I remember I think they plant either 42 or 44 inches apart. You string a wire that is mounted on a spool as you go one way and pick it up going other way or lay one out as you planting one direction. You drive post and do it every time. When you cultivate you can go endwise and crossways in the field. They used to cultivate four times here.



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Joe in Ne

03-07-2007 16:16:20




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 Re: 246/247 jd corn planter questions in reply to Joe in Ne, 03-07-2007 16:14:25  
Forgot to mention they went out of style when they quit using horses here to farm in 40's



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georgeky

03-07-2007 21:51:39




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 Re: 246/247 jd corn planter questions in reply to Joe in Ne, 03-07-2007 16:16:20  
Joe there is a bunch of old IH tractor mounted check row planters. So some folks held on to the practice even after the horse era.I think by the late fifties they were pretty much a thing of the past.



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mike3320

03-07-2007 16:31:10




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 Re: 246/247 jd corn planter questions in reply to Joe in Ne, 03-07-2007 16:16:20  
from what i understand this is the only three point hitch planter jd made as the rest went on a tool bar.



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Hugh MacKay

03-07-2007 16:06:07




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 Re: 246/247 jd corn planter questions in reply to mike3320, 03-07-2007 15:49:56  
Mike: I had one of those planters new complete with manual. I always understood the hill drop was for cotton and that planters so equipped were called 247. My planter was equipped as yours is and the one thing I could never understand is how a hill drop planter for cotton, made it's way to Nova Scotia, Canada through the John Deere system.

Perhaps some of the cotton growers can enlighten us as to whether my assumption is correct with regards to hill drop. I don't expect they will be able to enlighten us how such a planter ever made it to Nova Scotia.

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MikeinKy

03-07-2007 16:05:28




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 Re: 246/247 jd corn planter questions in reply to mike3320, 03-07-2007 15:49:56  
Back in the "olden" days, Farmers thought corn needed to be 2 or 3 kernels in hills about 2 feet apart.



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