I switched our 351M over to a 460 the bell housing fit. For engine mounts I had to get some from advanced adapters ? I think. Those 460's are sure alot better and I even get better mileage.

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MikeinKy

03-12-2007 16:45:27

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Re: 351 and 460 ford trannys in reply to super_m, 03-12-2007 16:40:21

If it is a 351M it has the same bellhousing bolt pattern. The Winsdor or Cleveland has the smallblock bolt pattern. I think you will need a 460 flywhel.

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Jak

03-13-2007 14:24:31

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Re: 351 and 460 ford trannys in reply to MikeinKy, 03-12-2007 16:45:27

I have a 351 W with the big bell housing hooked up to a C6 in an 86 3/4 ton 4wd.I also have a 351W out of a Ranchero hooked up to a C4 tranny with the smaller bell housing.

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Lumpy

03-12-2007 19:43:34

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Re: 351 and 460 ford trannys in reply to MikeinKy, 03-12-2007 16:45:27

MikeinKy, You are wrong about the Cleveland. It is the same block as the 351M/400. The Cleveland is 3 times the motor as the 351M/400. The Windsor is a small block like the 289 and 302. As far as motor mounts for the 460, go to a junk yard and get some.

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MikeinKy

03-14-2007 17:09:32

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Re: 351 and 460 ford trannys in reply to Lumpy, 03-12-2007 19:43:34

Lumpy, do you have about $100.00 you would like to bet. I have been working on Ford motors for 35 years. The Cleveland has the small block bolt pattern for the bellhousing and the 351M has the same pattern as the 460. I have changed over too many of them. Just to make sure, I have taken several M's out of trucks and installed 460's.

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Joe(TX)

03-13-2007 06:15:25

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Re: 351 and 460 ford trannys in reply to Lumpy, 03-12-2007 19:43:34

Lumpy
You are mistaken as are a lot of people. Differant blocks on the 351M and the 351 Clevland.
Look at an aftermarket intake for these engines, they are not the same.

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Jon Hagen

03-12-2007 21:06:33

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Re: 351 and 460 ford trannys in reply to Lumpy, 03-12-2007 19:43:34

Sorry Lumpy, I got to side with Mike on this one.
351M - 400 has the same bellhousing pattern as a 429-460. a 351 C has the same 6 bolt "smallblock" bellhousing pattern as the 65 and up 289-302-351W.

351M and 400 use the same block with the 429-460 bellhousing pattern, 351C has a lower deck height and the "small block" bellhousing pattern. I built and raced many of each, so I have a pretty good handle on what does and does not bolt up.

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georgeky

03-12-2007 21:35:27

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Re: 351 and 460 ford trannys in reply to Jon Hagen, 03-12-2007 21:06:33

I bought a 75 Mercury and a 1978 F 150 new and they both came with 351M400 big block and it said Cleveland on the sticker on valve cover. both engines out lasted both vehicles.

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Joe(TX)

03-13-2007 06:18:17

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Re: 351 and 460 ford trannys in reply to georgeky, 03-12-2007 21:35:27

That only means it was made in Cleveland. That does not mean it is a 351C.

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georgeky

03-13-2007 11:35:26

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Re: 351 and 460 ford trannys in reply to Joe(TX), 03-13-2007 06:18:17

I aint arguing but it say's Cleveland Family it doesn't say anything about being built in Cleveland.

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