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Some Truck Terminology Please

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uncle

03-22-2007 19:23:49




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I am looking at getting a new equipment truck and need some help with suspension terminology 1. what is camel Back
2. what is Hendricks
3. What is Hotchkins
Are there others?
Should it matter to me?
Brian




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RodInNS

03-23-2007 06:49:26




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 Re: Some Truck Terminology Please in reply to uncle, 03-22-2007 19:23:49  
Hendrickson is a walking beam set of axles suspended on one set of extended leafs. Good to keep things lively in the seat....
Camelback is an exlusive Mack suspension. The spring is shaped like a parabolic arch, and is attached to a pivot tube in the middle. The spring is the walking beam. They have a LOT of travel. Around here, they're noted for being exceptionally tough. Tough on the driver, tough on tires, and tough to break. It's a real kidney shaker of a system unless you run overweight all the time. Almost need to in order to smooth it out and hold the tires on the road....

I'm not familiar with Hotchkins.

Chalmers is a common builder of rubber block suspension. They mount a couple rubber blocks between a walking beam and the frame. Drives like a camelback on steroids....

If it was me, I'd go with air ride, all the way. My preference would be Holland Newway if I could get it. International seems to have a good air ride too (at least I haven't broken it yet). Freightliner's Airliner system would be last on my list I think (in terms of air ride). I had one, and ti rides nice, and carrys well.... but I've broken several springs with it, and know of other newer trucks with that system doing farm pickups (working in farms yards, tight manuvering etc), and they've broken those systems. Airliner uses an air bag on top of a spring, and the spring is responsible for tracking the axle, and those springs break under thrust. THat's what i've found anyway.
The IH system uses round bar for a track rod, and Newway uses a tubular underslung arm. I think there's a lot more strength in that system.

However, given a choice, I'd take any air ride over any of the devils you listed above. There's no way I'd go back. Air Ride simply rides so smooth.....

Rod

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Trkr

03-23-2007 05:00:49




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 Re: Some Truck Terminology Please in reply to uncle, 03-22-2007 19:23:49  
Hendrickson has air ride susp. also.



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MSM

03-23-2007 02:33:04




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 Re: Some Truck Terminology Please in reply to uncle, 03-22-2007 19:23:49  
I would seriously consider an air ride suspension,especially if you will be the one driving.Alot less parts to wear out,ride height is adjustable,driver fatigue is greatly reduced.Comparing spring suspension to air ride is like comparing a buckboard to a Cadillac.



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past tense truck mech.

03-22-2007 20:27:48




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 Re: Some Truck Terminology Please in reply to uncle, 03-22-2007 19:23:49  
Hendricks, Hotchkins, Hutch, etc. are Brand names of different suspension company's. They usually have several different types of suspension each.



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CUR DOG WI

03-22-2007 20:26:11




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 Re: Some Truck Terminology Please in reply to uncle, 03-22-2007 19:23:49  
the camel back is a mack product hendrichson is used by a lot of different trucks including macks I would talk to the sales person you are dealing with he works with trucks and he can tell you what is proper brand for what you are going to haul and what type of road or off road you will be driving on



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flying belgian

03-22-2007 20:11:51




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 Re: Some Truck Terminology Please in reply to uncle, 03-22-2007 19:23:49  
Hendrickson Susp. has a walking beam on each side between the tandems. Other writer is correct in that camel back is exclusive to Mack trucks. I used to own a fleet of trucks and it has been my experiance that Hendrickson is a poor suspension.



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Jim WJ

03-22-2007 20:05:29




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 Re: Some Truck Terminology Please in reply to uncle, 03-22-2007 19:23:49  
1. Camel Back Suspension = A type of spring suspension used on tandem drive axles Manufactured by Mack trucks.[ The spring is humped up in the middle looking like the back on a camel.]
2. Hendrickson Suspension = A type of spring suspension used on tandem drive axles that incorperates a large center spring. This spring sits on a saddle which sits on a walking beam. The walking beam ends are connected to the drive axles.
3. The Hutch suspension ,I believe this was what they called the 4 spring suspension. This I have not seen on a modern day truck. The term Hutch and Rayco I had always asociated with trailer suspensions. [ consider an air ride suspension]
Hope this helps Jim WJ

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Drill

03-22-2007 20:02:41




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 Re: Some Truck Terminology Please in reply to uncle, 03-22-2007 19:23:49  
Camel back refers to the back spring used on Mack truck.

The other two I'm not sure but think they refer to the brake systems.



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