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LP versus Gas engine heads

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INCase

03-23-2007 07:53:02




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"Generic" question on what the differences between LP and gas tractor engine heads are other than compression ratios? did LP heads usually have hardened valve seats?




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A-C hayman

03-24-2007 09:56:49




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 Re: LP versus Gas engine heads in reply to INCase, 03-23-2007 07:53:02  
I know that my AC 190 xt lp has a different head gasket than the gas, it was more expensive. I don"t think there is anything special about the head.



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buickanddeere

03-23-2007 20:14:06




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 Re: LP versus Gas engine heads in reply to INCase, 03-23-2007 07:53:02  
The two cylinder JD's used the identical gasser casting, they just added hardened valve seats.



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Clint Youse MO

03-23-2007 18:51:17




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 Re: LP versus Gas engine heads in reply to INCase, 03-23-2007 07:53:02  
I believe it depends on the manufacture if they were hardened or not but all had a higher compression ratio on LP The moline heads are the same except for compression.

Clint



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Robert Searcy

03-23-2007 08:08:56




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 Re: LP versus Gas engine heads in reply to INCase, 03-23-2007 07:53:02  
Well, I dont know a lot about them but here is what i experienced with our 400 LPG Farmall.

It had a little different head design than the gasser. I dont know about the difference in seats but i do know the valves themselves had an S or SF stamped in them as they were Sodium Filled due to the extra heat created. I am not sure if there was any difference in compression ration or not.

I know our LPG was a hard starter when it was cold. Always had to ether it. It ran great and as long as we werent pulling a plow or working it hard we ran it on vapor, turning the liquid valve off on the tank. It worked really well in a hot sun on that tank durning the day. I never really noticed a difference in power although some said you could tell when under a hard load. I never tried to compare, when plowing, I always just opened up the liquid valve and went to work. Turned it off when I left the field etc..... ...

IT was a great tractor and surprisingly economical I believe. The T/A was a weak spot and the power steering always leaked, it was a charlin. IT was a row crop and with the loader on it, it was hard to steer even with the charlin.

I have heard the 450 LPG heads are different as well, not sure how but they are and are desired by the pulling community.

That tractor did have flames that came out of the exhaust when working hard. They were pretty blue and the muffler got cherry red.

Very distinctive odor as well but man did the oil stay clean looking in it. Just like you poured it out of a can. Never got dirty looking.

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rrlund

03-23-2007 09:07:50




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 Re: LP versus Gas engine heads in reply to Robert Searcy, 03-23-2007 08:08:56  
I'm pretty sure thay are higher compression. A puller here with an M was asking me a while back if I knew where there was an M Lp head. Wanted more compression.



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