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Ferguson TO30 Starter Issue?

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Fred Hardin

04-09-2007 07:44:45

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Little help from a tractor/mechanical wise person if you please...TO30, Gas, converted to 12v...Didn't get cranked for several months as it sits under a heavy tarp outside on property a few hours from where I live...Prior to this, it started quickly the last time...Weekend 1 - Hooked up a battery and tried to turn over. Battery post/wire started heating up and smoking a bit. Didn't turn over, nothing. Ended up rocking the tractor back and forth and it seemed to resist at first then rocked back and forth more easily. Hit the switch and it cranked right up. Turned it off and cranked again several more times. Weekend 2 - Cranked right up and used for a short time. Needed new oil so I changed the oil while warm and then tried to start again..Same thing happened. Nothing at first. Rocked tractor back and forth but didn't seem to resist this time. Tried to crank again, nothing at first and then after a few trys it slowly turned over and cranked up...Starter going bad or solenoid? Both? Any other advise/tests? Thanks in advance!

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ErnieDD

04-09-2007 09:36:47

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Re: Ferguson TO30 Starter Issue? in reply to Fred Hardin, 04-09-2007 07:44:45

Is the electrical connection to the starter loose? Ours was and got hot, took it apart and one of the bus wires inside had loosened from the post. Soldered it back on and it was good as new.

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RustyFarmall

04-09-2007 09:15:25

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Re: Ferguson TO30 Starter Issue? in reply to Fred Hardin, 04-09-2007 07:44:45

If the battery cables get warm and start smoking, it is because of loose, dirty, or corroded connections. Take the connections loose and wire brush the crud away, or use your pocket knife and scrape it away. do this with the battery posts, and all the other connections, and then re-install and tighten thoroughly.

CLEAN, BRIGHT, AND TIGHT is the name of the game.

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Irv ( Ia)

04-09-2007 08:55:48

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Re: Ferguson TO30 Starter Issue? in reply to Fred Hardin, 04-09-2007 07:44:45

I would agree with bigjt. Mine wouldn't turn over very good either on 6v. so I converted it to 12v as you did. First time I tried it on 12v I smoked the starter switch. I think that was going bad before and I didn't realize it. As for yours, it might be that or your starter brushes might be setting on a bad spot on the commutator or the brushes are getting too short and just barely reach. It will sometimes start the tractor with help, but it keeps getting worse. It might be worth a look.

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big jt

04-09-2007 08:37:34

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Re: Ferguson TO30 Starter Issue? in reply to Fred Hardin, 04-09-2007 07:44:45

The First time you rocked it the engine was lightly stuck. You were lucklily able to free it up.

Shouldn't need to do this after just running the engine.

The second time there was a fault of some sort in the electrical system. Check to see if your battery is getting a charge. Is the timing a little fast and firing before TDC. This can be caused by a sticking ignition advance. First thing I would look for is a connection heating in the starting circuit. This will indicate a poor connection and is most likely your problem.

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Fred Hardin

04-09-2007 09:10:33

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Re: Ferguson TO30 Starter Issue? in reply to big jt, 04-09-2007 08:37:34

Thanks, bigjt...Makes sense...It did run a little rough at first...I'll check all connections and battery charge...What do you mean by sticking ignition advance? Points? I don't have a timing gun which is the first problem, but it ran like a top last year. I guess I'll get one and refer to my service manual. I don't use but a few times a year which can cause a lot of my problems.

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big jt

04-09-2007 09:29:35

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Re: Ferguson TO30 Starter Issue? in reply to Fred Hardin, 04-09-2007 09:10:33

Your probably won't find anything in the service manual.

Under the points plate in the distributer there will be a set of weights that advance the points cam as the engine speeds up. Allows for timing to fire after TDC when starting and then advance when running. The cam is a shaft that should rotate on the distributer shaft. Easy way to check is try to turn the rotor in the distributor. if it is solid or sticks this is your problem. The way things sound with your rig these may be sticking. Little bit of penetrating oil on the wick under the rotor will solve this problem.

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