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I'm just about out of ideas guys..

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old fashioned f

04-24-2007 06:58:35




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Howdy folks,

Well my "totally restored" 720 JD is just about to get to me. Back in January the pony clutch started slipping so I took the motor off to check it out. The clutch disc was new but the springs looked weak so I decided to replace them and readjust the clutch. In the process I noticed weak compression in the pistons. So I figured that I'd do a ring job on it. Well, I put the motor back together and put the whole unit in. Tried the motor and it worked good. Only one problem, now the pony gear that engages the big engine is spinning before you even pull the lever back. I took the motor off again and looked at the pony transmission. The pony has a slip clutch on it and seal on the shaft. Seal was bad and so was the friction disc. I replaced those and checked the linkage, even put the transmission on the tractor by itself to check the linkage operation. All looked good. So, for the second time I put the engine back on. Well, the problem is still there. So now I'm just about lost. I have one last theory but at this point I am not putting too much stock in it. Perhaps the clutch is adjusted too tight and is letting the disc be pressed against the flywheel before the bearing even touches it. Any help is appreciated at this point. God bless.

--old fashioned farmer

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STN.TN.

04-24-2007 16:49:54




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 Re: I'm just about out of ideas guys.. in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-24-2007 06:58:35  
JUST EXPERIANCED THE IDENTICAL SAME PROBLEM WITH A 70D I HAD REBUILT THE PONY ON W/NEW CLUTCH.IHAD THE CLUTCH TOO TIGHT HAD TO REDO,CURED THE PROBLEM.HOPE THIS WORKS FOR YOU. I USE 100% SYNTHETIC IN PONY TRANS. AND ALSO THE PONY MOTOR AFTER BREAK-IN. SEEMS TO HELP IT ESPECIALLY IN WINTER MOS.



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Old Magnet

04-24-2007 08:18:45




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 Re: I'm just about out of ideas guys.. in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-24-2007 06:58:35  
I don't know squat about JD pony motors but have had lots of experience with Cat ponies. The same pinion spinning occurs if the oil used in the pony clutch is to heavy. A 10wt oil or automatic transmission fluid works best with the Cat pony, maybe the same will work for you. Just a thought.



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Mike M

04-24-2007 07:23:40




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 Re: I'm just about out of ideas guys.. in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-24-2007 06:58:35  
It's been years since I worked on a few of those ponies ,but if it helps you can clamp them to a bench a fire them out without too much trouble. I used to test run them and then retorque the heads before putting them back in. I hooked up a water hose to them to keep them from burning up.



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mistake

04-24-2007 09:15:23




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 Re: I'm just about out of ideas guys.. in reply to Mike M, 04-24-2007 07:23:40  
ment to say " to test fire them up "



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