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Devin Sparks

05-13-2007 12:57:11




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I cut a snmall field of fescue last week. Could not get it baled before rain yesterday. I ran the ted over it today to spread it and let the air and sun get to it. Can I still sell for horse hay after it dries or find soeone with cows or is it a loss?




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kyhayman

05-13-2007 18:54:42




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 Re: Hay question in reply to Devin Sparks, 05-13-2007 12:57:11  
Dont risk market share over bad hay. It got wet, its going to be off color, and customers remember. Make good dry cow hay out of it, dont risk losing a customer over a hundred bales of marginal hay.



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Jim Johnson

05-13-2007 19:48:31




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 Re: Hay question in reply to kyhayman, 05-13-2007 18:54:42  
You're right honesty is always the best policy.

I always thought you never wanted to feed Fescue to a horse.

Jim



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georgeky

05-14-2007 04:06:36




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 Re: Hay question in reply to Jim Johnson, 05-13-2007 19:48:31  
The biggest trouble with feeding fescue to pregnant mares is it causes the placenta to thicken and become to tough for a newborne foal to break through. This will cause them to sufficate at birth. Other than that it will not hurt horses at all.



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burnetma

05-13-2007 20:32:22




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 Re: Hay question in reply to Jim Johnson, 05-13-2007 19:48:31  
Jim,

You are partially correct. You should not feed fescue hay or pasture to pregnant mares within 60-90 days of foaling. It may also have a negative effect on the growth of young horses. The issue is not with the fescue, but rather with the presence of endophytes. If the fescue is certified endophyte free, then it is fine for horses. Chances are if you have an established hay field or pasture containing tall fescue, it is not endophyte free. To the best of my limited knowledge on the subject, the endophyte poisoning does not negatively impact older horses and including non-breeding mares.

I hope this helps.

Mark

Mark

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Walt Davies

05-13-2007 16:05:45




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 Re: Hay question in reply to Devin Sparks, 05-13-2007 12:57:11  
Turn it several time till dry and keep your mouth shut unless asked. Don't lie but say it was baled dry. That is the important thing as wet hay will get a light colored mold in between the folds and that is what will make a horse sick but won't harm cows.
Walt PS check a few bales after they set awhile to see how clean they are.



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Dairy Farmer in WI

05-13-2007 19:20:14




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 Re: Hay question in reply to Walt Davies, 05-13-2007 16:05:45  
oh but moldy hay CAN affect cows. for a while i could not figure out for the life of me why 2 of my caws aborted their calves so i asked the vet and he said it could be moldy hay since some of my hay sat on plain old dirt shed floor. just ma 2 cents
DF



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Walt Davies

05-13-2007 22:01:39




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 Re: Hay question in reply to Dairy Farmer in WI, 05-13-2007 19:20:14  
If its Black Mold it can effect most anything setting on a wet floor I would think Black Mold. I keep all my hay off the ground with Pallets for breathing.
Walt



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georgeky

05-13-2007 13:31:08




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 Re: Hay question in reply to Devin Sparks, 05-13-2007 12:57:11  
Depends on how dry it was. If it was cured enough to bale it is probably not very good. More than likely horse people won't want it. Wait until you get some of it baled and see if the color is still good, usually fescue will turn dark after rained on.



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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

05-13-2007 13:30:40




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 Re: Hay question in reply to Devin Sparks, 05-13-2007 12:57:11  
A round bale set out can get rained on numerous times before its consumed. Horses will still eat it. At least mine do. The main thing is to be sure it is completely dry when you do bale it. You don't want it to mold after you bale. Alan, KYHayman, or COKen might have more insight.



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