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tire choice - which one ?

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1965lonewolf

07-26-2007 16:31:20




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i am buying a set of 18.4x38 firestones for a antigue pulling tractor - mostly stonebolt pulling , out of these 3 tires i'm going to list is the best for pulling ?
super all traction 23' - r 1 super all traction II - r 1
traction field & road - r 1 please get back to me with your choice and any thoughts you may have - thanks




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Clint Youse Mo

07-26-2007 19:47:37




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 Re: tire choice - which one ? in reply to 1965lonewolf, 07-26-2007 16:31:20  
If you are going to cut them go with the 23 degree long bar, long bar and harden them some if not cutting go with the series 2 field and roads are not going to do what you want them to if it were me and this tractor is hot enough to compete well and money was not he issue I would get the 23 and a set of Cepex pulling tires. and run depending on track



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buickanddeere

07-26-2007 19:07:57




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 Re: tire choice - which one ? in reply to 1965lonewolf, 07-26-2007 16:31:20  
More tread bars, thicker, not taller tread bars and more plys/weight/strength. A road worn tire with sturdy sidewalls is something to consider.



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iowa_tire_guy

07-26-2007 17:13:22




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 Re: tire choice - which one ? in reply to 1965lonewolf, 07-26-2007 16:31:20  
As stated the SAT 23 is the best tire for traction and is really the best hands down on hard surface. The 45 degree tires may have an advantage in soft fields but the 23 is best on hard surface. Now with that said whenever I have talked to experienced pullers they want tires that are almost wore out because the don't want the tire to bite in and pile up the dirt for the sled to hit. So with that information are you sure you want new tires?

As for Firestone being foreign owned at least their tires are made in the US by well paid workers as opposed to the smaller Goodyear tractor tires being made in India.

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1965LONEWOLF

07-27-2007 04:01:23




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 Re: tire choice - which one ? in reply to iowa_tire_guy, 07-26-2007 17:13:22  
THIS IS FOR 8" STONEBOLT PULLING AND YOU CAN"T HAVE CUT TIRES



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iowa_tire_guy

07-26-2007 18:28:11




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 Re: tire choice - which one ? in reply to iowa_tire_guy, 07-26-2007 17:13:22  
I should have said some of the smaller Goodyear tractor rears are made in India.



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Walt Davies

07-26-2007 17:19:47




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 Re: tire choice - which one ? in reply to iowa_tire_guy, 07-26-2007 17:13:22  
Does that include the big Firestone plant in Mexico ???

Walt



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iowa_tire_guy

07-26-2007 20:07:33




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 Re: tire choice - which one ? in reply to Walt Davies, 07-26-2007 17:19:47  
And what ag tires do the make in that Mexican plant?



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CumminsMan

07-26-2007 17:01:34




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 Re: tire choice - which one ? in reply to 1965lonewolf, 07-26-2007 16:31:20  
Go with the super all traction 23's, the series II tire has a narrower bar, its their cheaper tire. As for the goodyear comment, when they come out with a tire that doesn't blow out the sidewall, and has a tread design that will bite as good as the SAT 23 radial on all surfaces maybe they will be back in the US Farm tire business.



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RodInNS

07-26-2007 19:14:50




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 Re: tire choice - which one ? in reply to CumminsMan, 07-26-2007 17:01:34  
Bingo. Bingo. Bingo. US made doesn't mean a damn thing if the tire won't do a days work.
A friend of mine went through 7 (yes, that's right... 7 tires) in ONE YEAR, on one tractor. Every one suffered from ply separation. GoodYear would warranty them and adjust them, but it was still costing money.
He went to Firestone Radial All Traction 23 degree's and hasn't looked back since. The Firestone will do what the DynaTorque Radial would not. Now that Titan owns the mess, I still ahven't changed my mind on them either. They just don't make a tire worth buying.
Firestone and Michelin pretty much dominate the Offroad market these days, and Firestone has the Construction and Forestry segement of that market.

Rod

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rustyfarmall

07-26-2007 16:55:56




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 Re: tire choice - which one ? in reply to 1965lonewolf, 07-26-2007 16:31:20  
I think the 23 degree bars would be what you want for a flat, hard surface.



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caterpillar guy

07-26-2007 16:42:04




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 Re: tire choice - which one ? in reply to 1965lonewolf, 07-26-2007 16:31:20  
Why buy a foreign owned company like Firestone you could buy Goodyear and keep the money here.At least the last I knew they were still a US company. Bridgestone owns Firestone from Japan.



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