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Jeanray

11-28-2007 20:12:22




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Can I use a marine battery on my tractor for the winter?




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guido

11-30-2007 13:41:42




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jeanray, 11-28-2007 20:12:22  
Hey JENRAY
The difference betwwen an automotive battery and a marine battery is the way they are rated.
Auotmotive battery are rated a 0 degree f.
While marine battery are rated at 32 degree f.
As longe as you have enough capacity at the temperature you are using the battery you should have no problem. The colder the battery gets the less power/potential is its output. Guido.



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dave guest

11-29-2007 19:24:06




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jeanray, 11-28-2007 20:12:22  
Lots of differences, however, in a pinch, I put one in my 91 caddy with 5.7 liter in Mich. Going on 3 years. I would never recommend it, but it was extra. Every time I drive by the river, it speeds up, joke.



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wilsonfire

11-29-2007 07:14:12




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jeanray, 11-28-2007 20:12:22  
IF you have a high amp alternator like a car on your tractor don't risk it on a deep cycle battery. Many men (Myself included) have come back from a day of boat fishing to find their truck battery kaput. Swapping out a deep cycle battery they (me) then drive home for an hour or more and the deep cycle is so overcharged it cracks, spills the acid and you can imagine the rest. A Dual Purpose marine battery works fine.

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Walt Davies

11-29-2007 08:06:21




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 Re: battery question in reply to wilsonfire, 11-29-2007 07:14:12  
Sometime I wonder where all this BS comes from Now I know one source.

I had a 67 Chevy truck with an 80 amp alternator on it. It had twin batteries one regular for the truck one deep cycle for the camper.
If I left the light on the truck I would jump the isolation switch and then start the truck on the deep cycle. How comes my 80 amp alternator didn't blow up my deep cycle battery after I ran it dry when camping.

There are thousands of campers out there with this setup and they don't blow up the batteries.
Walt

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wilsonfire

11-29-2007 10:48:12




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 Re: battery question in reply to Walt Davies, 11-29-2007 08:06:21  
IMHO. No need to flame.



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Walt Davies

11-29-2007 21:58:14




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 Re: battery question in reply to wilsonfire, 11-29-2007 10:48:12  
Not a Flame just want to set record straight so people don't get funny ideas there are enough of them floating around to confuse the poor guys without adding to them.
Walt

PS your battery was not exploded by a high amperage alternator it had some other problem to cause this.



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buickanddeere

11-29-2007 05:44:40




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jeanray, 11-28-2007 20:12:22  
Yes, but the engine won"t start when more than 3 to 4 feet of water.



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John T

11-29-2007 05:32:12




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jeanray, 11-28-2007 20:12:22  
Sure you can and its probalby fine with no problems at all, but if its say a bigger tractor with higher compression thats draws a high starter current a regular batery might give better starting performance (depends on size n ratings).

The deep cycle is designed to allow deep discharges and then be replenished while a regular batetry is designed for a heavy sudden starting type of current draw performance and then to be replenished.

If you already have one it will work in your tractor but if you need to buy a new tractor battery Id go for the regular design.

John T

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John T

11-29-2007 05:31:53




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jeanray, 11-28-2007 20:12:22  
Sure you can and its probalby fine with no problems at all, but if its say a bigger tractor with higher compression thats draws a high starter current a regular batery might give better starting performance (depends on size n ratings).

The deep cycle is designed to allow deep discharges and then be replenished while a regular batetry is designed for a heavy sudden starting type of current draw performance and then to be replenished.

If you already have one it will work in your tractor but if you need to buy a new tractor battery Id go for the regular design.

John T

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dlplost

11-28-2007 22:41:18




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jeanray, 11-28-2007 20:12:22  
N tractor won't hurt a deep cycle batt, N starter dosn't draw enough current for a long enough time to cause a problem.

Been swapping mine back and forth for 5 years.



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flashback

11-28-2007 20:27:58




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jeanray, 11-28-2007 20:12:22  
Sure can. It wont know if its in a boat or not.



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Jon Hagen

11-28-2007 20:34:34




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 Re: battery question in reply to flashback, 11-28-2007 20:27:58  
Yes, as long as it is not a deep cycle marine battery.



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Don-Wi

11-29-2007 00:34:11




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jon Hagen, 11-28-2007 20:34:34  
My 66' chevy had a deep cycle marine battery in it when I bought it, and I ran on it for atleast a year before I tore the engine out.

Donovan from Wisconsin



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Jeanray

11-28-2007 21:51:04




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jon Hagen, 11-28-2007 20:34:34  
what will be the problem if it's a deep cycle?



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Jon Hagen

11-29-2007 08:36:19




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jeanray, 11-28-2007 21:51:04  
Your question was "can I use a marine battery in my tractor for winter" If winter is cold where you live and the tractor takes a lot of amps to turn over, then a deep cycle battery may not be able to produce enough amps to start a cold, stiff engine. A conventional battery designed for cranking, lighting, ignition duty will better be able to produce that huge rush of power for a few seconds needed to crank a cold engine. Some Marine batteries are a hybrid with some of the characteristics of both a deep cycle and cranking battery. They are a bit weaker in cranking a big engine, but better able to tollerate medium to deep cycling than an ordinary cranking battery for those that use the same battery to start the big inboard / outboard motor and run an electric trolling motor.

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Jim Johnson

11-29-2007 04:41:52




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jeanray, 11-28-2007 21:51:04  
Well all I can tell you about it is, a friend of mine bought one brand new, put it on his JD "A" and it wouldn't even turn it over. It evidently has no real cranking power.

Jim



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RodInNS

11-29-2007 04:35:12




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 Re: battery question in reply to Jeanray, 11-28-2007 21:51:04  
Deep cycle batteries are designed to survive deep discharge cycles. That's quite a different requirement than a starting battery that is designed to provide it's maximum available amperage over a very short period of time. I don't think there's a particular problem using a deep cycle battery for starting PROVIDED that it can deliver the rated CCA's that's needed for your particular application. If it doesn't make the CCA's it's not going to be sufficient to start the engine...

Rod

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Jon Hagen

11-29-2007 09:29:36




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 Re: battery question in reply to RodInNS, 11-29-2007 04:35:12  
A battery FAQ page I looked at said to oversize a deep cycle battery by atleast 20% if it is to be used as a cranking battery.



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