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OT: The Ice Cream Man

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Merlin in Rushf

12-21-2007 16:46:00




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Just wondering...why does the Schwan Company convert all of their route trucks to propane? Seems like a lot of expense to go to for home delivery trucks. Is it that much more economical to run a fleet on propane? Probably makes all of the "Hank Hill"s of the country happy!
Merlin




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Owen Aaland

12-21-2007 22:24:29




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 Re: OT: The Ice Cream Man in reply to Merlin in Rushford, 12-21-2007 16:46:00  
The reason they use propane is because it is cheaper for them. They continually compare the costs of running on propane, gasoline, and diesel. Other than buying a bunch of diesels in early 2003 when they couldn't get enough new chassis's converted fast enough, the diesels are usually used in areas where the trucks are driven too many miles to make it back to the depot before requiring refueling.

The trucks come off the assembly line in Flint MI as gasoline incomplete trucks with temporary fuel tanks. They are delivered to Monroe Truck Equipment which is adjacent to the assembly plant where they are converted to the Bi-Phase Liquid Fuel Injection system. Bi-Phase is owned by Schwans Food Company.

Cost of conversion is about $5000 per truck which is recovered in about a year and a half compared to running on gasoline.

Propane is purchased on national contracts. The propane company owns the storage tanks and refueling system at each depot. If you purchase 40 to 50 million gallons a year you can get it for a pretty good price. Their delivered price here with road taxes included is cheaper that I am paying on a commercial contract for heating my shop.

Service intervals for oil changes are about double the miles compares to a gasoline engine. Generally about 6000 on the 8.1L engines in most of their trucks. Most engines will run the 150,000 miles they use them with only plugs and wires, sometime a water pump.

When they first started running propane in the late 70's the Federal tax credits were enough to pay for a new chassis every 5 years.

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504-2

12-21-2007 18:32:18




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 Re: OT: The Ice Cream Man in reply to Merlin in Rushford, 12-21-2007 16:46:00  
They are going to diesel or at least trying it on some trucks. (the shop that keeps ours running also works on theirs here in town)



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Sid

12-21-2007 17:36:17




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 Re: OT: The Ice Cream Man in reply to Merlin in Rushford, 12-21-2007 16:46:00  
From what I understand they are not converted they come from the factory that way. (big difference) I have an idea they are getting some government "alternative fuel" funding of some sort. I have heard several programs exist along those lines. (I wouldn't doubt it). As high as propane is, around here anyway, it is about 2/3 the cost of gasoline. They don't pull heavy loads and I suspect most of their routes are fairly easy going. If I had a need for a light duty truck I would go with factory propane in a heart beat. The plant they used to have close to me had a bulk tank big enough to take delivery by semi. When you are getting propane for rack price and by passing ol' Hank, you knock another big chunk off your fuel expenses.

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Digger MM

12-21-2007 17:20:35




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 Re: OT: The Ice Cream Man in reply to Merlin in Rushford, 12-21-2007 16:46:00  
The Shwanns trucks have propane powered freezer units, so it's just as well that the engines run on propane.



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Don Hopf

12-22-2007 10:20:29




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 Re: OT: The Ice Cream Man in reply to Digger MM, 12-21-2007 17:20:35  
I agree. The propane is also used in keeping thing's frozen. It works great as it takes 24 hours of being in the house freezer to warm up to 20-32 degrees before I can scoop out the ice cream. Coming right off truck requires a air chisel to get any out of the pail. Then you have be careful to make sure its a choclate chip or a chip off the chisel.

Don "Where's the Schwann's man at?" Hopf



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