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Raleigh

04-21-2008 07:57:33




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Has anyone had any SERIOUS PTO damage done to their tractor or know of anyone who has torn their PTO system up? If so what were you doing and how did you mess it up?




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DAN9-Midwest

04-21-2008 17:59:52




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 Re: PTO damage in reply to Raleigh, 04-21-2008 07:57:33  
We had a batch of good weather coming up so I knocked down 2200 or so small square bales over a couple days. All was going OK till one of the boys hooked up my 575 NH baler to the M8950--90 HP--Kubota but didn't push the yoke on all the way.

So when it broke the u-joint and yoke it bent and twisted the PTO shaft more than I could believe. Well, I lived miles from anywhere so I got another U-joint and grinded the pto shaft until I could hammer the yoke on. It looked real bad and I figured it would snap on the first few bales but I least I wouldn't go down with a fight.

I kept the RPM's low and I waited for it to break. And I waited. And it never broke. Whatever that PTO shaft was made if made it happen since there was no way it could have baled much of anything--let alone 2200 bales. Maybe the 2200 prayers helped.

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KEH

04-21-2008 17:04:27




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 Re: PTO damage in reply to Raleigh, 04-21-2008 07:57:33  

Snapped the pto shaft while running a rotary mower. Tried to cut too large a tree. Don't believe that stuff about if the tractor can push the tree over the mower can cut it. It can but it's too hard on the tractor.

KEH



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Kevin in OK

04-21-2008 12:20:15




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 Re: PTO damage in reply to Raleigh, 04-21-2008 07:57:33  
Grandpa"s 1960 Ford 631 managed to twist a PTO shaft. I don"t know exactly how it happened, but my best guess is a shear bolt got replaced with something stronger, and the mower then hit something solid.

He says it ran for a long time after that, but a few years ago it finally wouldn"t stay in gear and it got a new PTO shaft.

Kevin



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135 Fan

04-21-2008 11:57:01




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 Re: PTO damage in reply to Raleigh, 04-21-2008 07:57:33  
I've heard that they can break if you have an implement like a rototiller and you don't lift it up and shut the PTO off first, before shutting the tractor off. I always engage and disengage the PTO at idle. Heard that engaging at full speed isn't good as well. Dave



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Mike M

04-21-2008 11:06:11




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 Re: PTO damage in reply to Raleigh, 04-21-2008 07:57:33  
WHY ? WHAT DID YOU DO ?

I have seen a few old 2cyl. with the shafts broken and the boss in the tranny case busted out. I was told the old whirly gig hay rakes were known to do this ?



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Jerry Coulter

04-21-2008 10:25:29




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 Re: PTO damage in reply to Raleigh, 04-21-2008 07:57:33  
I have an old WC Allis I was using on a Gehl 15" mix mill. The engine went bad, so I retrofit a LeRoi which bolted right in. I could really shovel it in for a few months, but it ate up the transmission gear that drives the PTO.



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Dan-IA

04-21-2008 10:22:18




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 Re: PTO damage in reply to Raleigh, 04-21-2008 07:57:33  
Dunno how it happened, but I saw a 1066 on the Poky sale a month or so ago that had the shaft broken off about an inch outside of the housing. It was equipped with the bigger 540-looking shaft only. Since all my tractors have 540 and 1000 shafts and not a bigger one with the fewer splines like a 540, I don't know what speed that is - except I have seen it on commercial snowblowers.



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Walt davies

04-21-2008 09:56:42




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 Re: PTO damage in reply to Raleigh, 04-21-2008 07:57:33  
Like most things if you over work them sooner or later you will have trouble. Keep everything well lubed and in good operating condition and don't do things that the tractor is not made to do. Read the manuals.
Walt



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Mathias NY

04-21-2008 09:40:50




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 Re: PTO damage in reply to Raleigh, 04-21-2008 07:57:33  
The farmer I used to work for had the PTO shaft pulled out of the tractor by a brush hog. He was mowing with a 10' brush hog on a Ferguson 65. After turing the corner at the end of the row the PTO shaft on the mower didn't lengthen. I didn't see it, but was told that it made quite a mess of the back of the tractor.

Basically if you don't grease your PTO shaft it will eventually sieze. My dad had a similar issue with his mower, only he caught it before it damaged the tractor.

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davediehl@hotmail.com

04-21-2008 08:57:52




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 Re: PTO damage in reply to Raleigh, 04-21-2008 07:57:33  
Had a bearing lock up while planting with the air planter. Housing was red hot and the bearing was welded to the shaft. Moderate expense as the housing was a bolt on to the rear end.

They claim the 1000 pto's are only designed for 100 horsepower. The shafts can easily twist and break under big loads. Not uncommon to boofoo something like that in higher hp tractors.



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phillip d

04-21-2008 08:17:40




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 Re: PTO damage in reply to Raleigh, 04-21-2008 07:57:33  
I know of a neighbour that has a not sure what number case,about a 1995 with 110 hp.He blows snow for windmills access roads,was working one day and just finished blowing out a long lane.As he was looking forward again he saw a LONG trail of oil.He got out to inspect it and found that the bearing went on the pto shaft.It wore through the bearing case into the rearend housing.He got some parts in the U.S. from a wrecker,luckily,and replaced almost the whole rearend of the tractor himself.Didn't make much on that job.

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