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StuBC

05-11-2008 16:16:46




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I am charging my 6v battery today and its hissing while it charges. Like air is escaping. What is that and any concern for explosion?




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StuBC

05-15-2008 18:52:56




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
I parked it, its done. Thanks for the advice. No more bad battery for me.



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Bus Driver

05-12-2008 04:23:47




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
Using a 12 volt charger can cause the symptoms described. Bad! Use a 6 volt charger.



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RAB

05-11-2008 23:15:45




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
Remember it is not just the hydrogen that explodes - it is the fact that it is mixed with oxygen at the perfect ratio for re-combining to form water that makes it that more dangerous.

You are electrolysing water to it's component elements with a lot of electrical energy. That energy change is reversed in a millisecond if there is a spark.....boom.

It does not need 6 amps, or more, to cause this change. Simply too high a charge rate (an alternator can charge at 60+ amps with no problems on a good battery but on a poor or undersized battery that could easily ruin the battery in a short time). Simply passing a current through a cell which is not accepting the charge will electrolyse the electrolyte and things will be made worse, if it cannot vent easily.

Also you should not pressurise a cell in any way. That could cause deformation/buckling, resulting in an internal spark and explosion.

Checking the S.G is important but simply, if only one cell is gassing, that cell is likely to be on the way out, as the others are charging and that one is electrolysing.

There must be loads of manufacture/ supplier information on the net. You will get more good information there than listening to those who give you a bum-steer on any discussion forum.

I am assuming you are using a flooded lead/acid battery. Gel batteries require a different procedure and if you have one of those it is probably ruined if you have gassed the cells for any length of time.

Regards, RAB

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buickanddeere

05-11-2008 21:26:10




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
Listen to Mark-In. Make a spark by removing the clamps and the oxygen-hydrogen mix inside/around the vent caps is going to go boom.



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Mark - IN.

05-11-2008 20:57:14




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
If its hissing, I'm guessing that you're charging it with closed caps. As mentioned below, they do put off gasses as charging, so have the caps open, and don't cause sparks while charging by doing things like moving the charger clamps around while its venting gasses. I saw a guy blow one up doing just that. You really should check its specific gravity as also mentioned below. Some folks add distilled water if the level's down, but I pickup electrolyte (comes in small bottles) from the auto parts guy and add that instead. Its cheap.

Decades back as a kid when worked at an auto parts store after school, sometimes folks would come in poorer than church mice with dead batteries on the coldest days of the years, often scraping pennies together to buy the cheapest battery that we sold, and often didn't have enough for that. I used to take a tester and test batteries we'd taken in as cores, find the best one, clean it and toss it on a charger filled with distilled water mixed with lite liquid dish soap until bubbled good, then rinse it out good, then fill it with new electrolyte and charge it and test it. Then I'd swap it with their's...a core is a core, so long as I got one back and send them on their way after charging them 25 or 50 cents for the electrolyte. Usually got them through the winter, and they usually came back pretty greatful down the road when they could afford to buy a new one. I figure doesn't hurt nobody to help someone when I can, and try not to leave folks stranded.

Mark

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Roy Suomi

05-11-2008 17:39:09




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
If the battery went down over winter , I would charge it slowly on low for a long day, then test it with a hydrometer..The readings then should indicate your next move..Probably replacement...



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mEl

05-11-2008 17:10:11




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
To properly charge the battery you should have a hydrometer to test the specific gravity of the electrolyte. Remove the caps and observe the activity in each cell, they all should be gassing evenly and not to hard, It is better to slowly charge the battery than to quick charge it. If one cell is gassing badly and the others are not, the gassing cell is most likely bad. If a cell gasses badly when the starter is engaged and the engine does not turn normally, the cell that gasses is bad. The normal specific gravity of a charged cell will be at 12.60, lower but even means the battery is discharged. badly uneven readings indicate weak or bad cells. As the other posts have said, use eye protection and unplug the charger before removing charger connections. There is much more science to batteries and charging but this will get you off on the right foot.

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gene bender

05-11-2008 16:51:36




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
Un plug the charger wait overnite then remove the caps be careful???



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Elijah

05-11-2008 16:46:44




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
Unless you're low on electrolyte I would say you have a short in the battery which happens to all of them eventually. I've personally had four or five like that. It's usually accompanied by not holding charge too. Probably time for a new one.



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Bob

05-11-2008 16:29:00




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
Are you wearing the appropriate eye/face protection while messing with it?



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JT

05-11-2008 16:27:14




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
take the caps off when charging any battery. When charging a battery, it produces gas and cap blow the caps off and make a mess. You also could charging at too high of a rate. Should be 20adc or less.
Jim



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36 coupe

05-11-2008 17:13:33




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 Re: battery charging in reply to JT, 05-11-2008 16:27:14  
Batteries tend to produce hydrogen gas when charged at a rate over 6 amps.Fast charging overheats a battery.A shorted cell will hiss at low rates.Better check this battery with a hydrometer and wear safety glasses.



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ricky c

05-11-2008 16:20:38




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
pull the caps and made sure the water level is good.you could be overcharging it.



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Lanse

05-11-2008 16:19:42




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 Re: battery charging in reply to StuBC, 05-11-2008 16:16:46  
i dont know, but until someone jumps on this thread with an intellegent answer i would unplug that thing. safety first



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Animal

05-11-2008 17:46:10




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 Re: battery charging in reply to Lanse, 05-11-2008 16:19:42  
Surely you jest, you can not be that stupid?



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36 coupe

05-12-2008 02:14:27




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 Re: battery charging in reply to Animal, 05-11-2008 17:46:10  
The boy is right.Have you ever seen a battery explode?I have, glad I wasnt closer when it went off.



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Lanse

05-11-2008 19:54:21




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 Re: battery charging in reply to Animal, 05-11-2008 17:46:10  
i guess i am but im willing to learn



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