jdemaris
11-09-2006 09:00:52
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Re: BS is flying? in reply to Lavoy, 11-08-2006 16:14:58
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At this point - I don't know how to reply in an effective way- and I do not like nit-picking about words - that's for idiot college professors (I've taugh a few adjunct classes - so I guess that qualifies me to say that). Words mean something - including their everyday meaning and/or their OED denotation. They are dependent on context, and the sentences or paragraphs they are used in. And, all can have differing connotations depending on who is talking, and where, and why. I can't control all of that - and since these forum postings are "blind" with no vis-à-vis contact, most people not knowing one another, the words are all I have to go by. So - when you write something my direction, but "mean" something else - yeah, that's often a problem with written communications. I've tried my best to be clear and unequivocal - and I don't believe I wrote anything that is factually incorrect. You did. I also understand that you later qualified the statement. E.g. - you mentioned, twice now, that a six-way blade on a 420 "would be non-existent because it was never offered on the 420 by Deere." My response to that is . . . if someone modifies or constructs a 6-way on a 420 - it does exist. I've seen several, ergo - they are. That, along with most HD3s I've seen having OEM 6-ways, I felt I was qualified to mention it. At the outset - I offered my two-cents based on personal preference and opinion. I've worked on Deere crawlers since the early 60s. My AC experience is more limited. I just stripped an HD3 and was impressed with how heavy-built it is, as compared to some other crawlers. Most of the HD3 heavy-parts direct-fit my HD4 - and with the HD4 I have a lot of experience. Because of the similarities between the 3s and 4s, and because I've met several owners with both series - including a few that were previous small-Deere crawler owners - again - I felt it worth mentioning. From that - I offered my opinion along with any facts I was sure about. I made a point about MY machine being an HD4, not an HD3. And - my opinion about the "apples and oranges" comparison between the HD3 and 420 is based on the #1 the weight difference - 5100 lb. 420 versus a HD3 weighing 7600 lbs.; 420 with a 113 c.i. gas engine and HD3 with a 175 c.i. diesel., 420 being made around 1956-1958 whereas the HD3 being made 1960-1968, 420 with an approx. 6 GPM hydraulic pump at 1000 PSI and the HD3 having a 15 or 25 GPM hydraulic pump at 1625 PSI. And - to avoid any conflicts - I am only talking about the newer Allis Chalmers HD3 based on the D15 ag. tractor. There was an also an earlier HD3 built ca. early 40s with a Detroit Diesel 2-71 with very limited production.
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