The one write up I found on the Pardner pump (12 gauge full size) found them to be consistantly "fair to good" in their fit, finish and operation. They compared them side by side with the Remington 870 and even swapped parts between them checking to see if the were a true "clone". The parts fit for the most part (barrel is specifically designed to NOT fit).
They found the 870 to be as I've found them to be, some great and some looking like they fell off a truck from North Korea. It seems that Remington's quality can be VERY GOOD and some times VERY BAD.
I'm looking at the Pardner Youth model because of the price and its locally available in stock where I can actually handle it. If my sons only use it for 4-5 years and out grow it I can always sell it for the same $150 as long as they don't destroy it. It has screw in chokes and a very thick recoil pad - something lacking on all the single shots I looked at and as mentioned above the recoil on single shots is enough to make any young shooter flinch. If I wanted to go that route I have an old Stevens Fox 311 20 gauge side by side they could use - but there's some serious recoil with it too. I'm working with an extremely small 12 year old and a large 9 year old (actually the same size).
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