Posted by Jack a on October 10, 2012 at 15:39:01 from (70.35.110.239):
In Reply to: Tractor Firsts posted by sixtyninegmc on October 10, 2012 at 13:34:41:
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I'm not going to get into a shouting match over which is better a Cat or Allis dozer built in the 1940's. Nebraska testing was the best testing they had but is subjective as sometimes whather had some to do with it. I also don't doubt a D8 was good as there ar plenty out there that attest to that.
When th ice storm of 1991 hit Minnesota, a company that was working in the area out of Iowa had all Allis crawlers working to put the large power lines up throughout the winter. Thre were many (more than a handful) and this was after Allis was out of the crawler business for almost 20 years. They couldn't have been too bad. A friend of mine that used to work in a local quarry said it wa alwas a race to see who got to operate the Allis dozer cause of so much more work it could do. They could really bare down and push. Too much at times as the finals in some models failed and the torque from pushing so much was what tey blamed but they always could push more than a Cat. Were they the best? I don't know but they were good. My father still has an HD11 on the farm and it's been a great tractor and it's the easiest starting diesel I've been around. I don't know why that 516 starts so good while most of the 426 and 301 Allis' start almost as hard as an old Deere.
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