I say go with the 600 or 601 series tractors, all the hundred series have live hydraulics BUT NOT ALL have live PTO's ie the 641 has live hyd but no live PTO and a 4 speed trans ,while the 651 has live hyd a 2 stage clutch giving live PTO and 5 speed trans. The 601 series have approx 12 more hp very noticeable when mowing and bushhoging and they are notably heaver duty just an overall newer improved tractor. I have a 8N that I've owned for 30+ yrs and a 641 both are great tractors the 8n has served me very well but the 641 is a better tractor.
While live PTO is nice it is not needed if using a finishing mower or a bushhog install a over-running clutch and all will be find.
Its very obvious that anyone saying a 8N has no power has never operated a good running one they will compete with any 209 hp tractor made and do better than many.
GB in MN
This post was edited by MNGB at 16:16:17 05/14/13.
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