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Re: John T, Mike WA leagal expanation please


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Posted by John T on July 16, 2013 at 06:58:58 from (216.249.76.176):

In Reply to: John T, Mike WA leagal expanation please posted by jocco on July 16, 2013 at 04:40:48:

Murder statutes are STATE regulated NOT any Federal controlled crime, far as I know there arent any federal murder statutes (but Im NOT a criminal lawyer so no warranty on that), so each State has their own criminal law and jury requirements. HOWEVER the DOJ does have jurisdiction as far as civil rights violations and so called "hate crimes" but those get into the offenders state of mind etc. (HARD TO PROVE) However, the civil rights violations are geared more towards when a cop acting under "color of laW" violates a persons civil rights, not so much private citizens. Seems to me if you shoot someone down you must have (at that time at least) hated them to some extent, while the law has to do with your state of mind and hatred to some group of persons. Im not a fan of these so called "hate crimes" I am a fan of laws which if violated should result in punishment, regardless if there was or was not hate involved, as its tough to know let alone prove hate in general. i.e. if you shoot someone (and proven beyond reasonable doubt to a jury) and it wasnt in self defense youre guilty PERIOD. Trying to tack on or label it as HATE may become more political then judicial I fear.

Hope my more current and still practicing co counsel Mike weighs in........

John T Country Lawyer


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