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Re: Beat to death


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Posted by Paul on November 26, 2013 at 10:15:49 from (66.60.223.232):

In Reply to: Re: Beat to death posted by RodInNS on November 26, 2013 at 08:48:10:

Healthy skepticism is a good thing, I can understand that.

I provided a lot of info, lot of different groups and reports summered in my links, not just one or 2. One has to start somewhere, not just I guess this or I think that, we need to form our opinion from some good solid data and good solid science?

And they point to that 30% or so net energy gain.

What has the other side provided?

I kinda read in your message, "I love my petrochemical business and just don't want to believe anything else....' But that is just healthy skepticism on my part too, I don't mean that personally at all. ;)

If you look at the studies, really look at them, they do go quite in depth to include the fertilizer and all. But you have to look if you want to learn.

How efficient is gasoline, by the way? Oh, I'm sure that isn't very important tho. Only ethanol efficiency should be questioned.....

If you are going to question DDG as a real product or just a waste, you need to get out and look where the ethanol plants are. DDG is what carried manufactured feed through the past few years, it is a sought after commodity. China imports a whole bunch from us as well - we export 20% of what we produce as a high protein, high mineral feed suppliment.. Tthere s demand for it, not a waste to get rid of?

You do know DDGs are traded on the board, this is not some floor sweepings product? Those fellas aren't going to bother setting up a board for a worthless waste product?

http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/agricultural/files/AC-398_DDGS_FC_r6.pdf

Its good to question things and look for biases. There are plenty on both sides of the issue, and I try hard to bypass the ones on my side, only quote and work with the real, good, data from either side.

Hopefully you keep an open mind and look at the real issues and real info.

Paul



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