Re: OT - Quick Mud

Posted by Billy NY on February 27, 2016 at 10:05:48 from (104.228.35.235):

In Reply to: OT - Quick Mud posted by Bill VA on February 27, 2016 at 09:24:02:

Countless times, but each is a little different. Last one was my 850 ford. I've been in this area before, you can't tell now but it was all crop land at one time. Front wheels slice it open, sloppy steering box causes the wheels to splay out, that makes resistance, rears then lose traction, and it literally churned itself in and it was up to the main castings. Farmer friend had passed away, on the rare occasion this did happen on this land, he'd always come over, busy or not, and we used to do the same with our D7, I can remember fondly pulling one of his big JD's out of a soft spot when he was plowing in the spring. His son never got my voice mail, so I left it until I could figure out what I would do. 1 Harbor freight chain hoist and a 4" black cherry sapling to hook to at the base. It had dried up a bit, but slowly it pulled it up and out. Now this is not bottomless, I had the same thing happen in there 10 years or so back with the same tractor, just pushed myself backwards and out with the bucket.

Having worked in site development, site work, excavation, mass earth moving, pipe and utility work, I've seen lots of heavy equipment stuck. I spent a year straight on a D8K for one company. On a large flat site in Howell NJ, near Vanderveer road, what was once a really nice dairy farm, with some of the best topsoils. While stripping the top soil, I was traversing the site on undisturbed ground, in the middle of one of these huge fields, the 8K just sunk to the belly pan on one side. Saturated ground was all it was. I had to get 2 of the large excavators to dig around it and assist getting it out, and it did come out without too much trouble. These are very heavy tractors, this one had the 4bbl ripper on it too, and had a straight blade. Same site a driver on a 30 yard articulated hauler, went right into a deep filled area that was soft, it was flagged off too, and he was fully loaded. That took an excavator and 2 D8K's to get out, and that was a man made bottomless pit of muck. I guess he missed the flags, everyone else knew what it was and drove around it, he went straight into it.

On the 850, I tried the logs on the tire and a as many other ways as was feasible, forget it. As time passed, the weather finally was dry for weeks, by the time I got it out, that was a factor. This area was hard underneath, just this spot that was deeper under the top soil. I never saw a tire squash up like that with a log chained to it. That is or can be a dangerous thing to do, I don't recommend it for something like this, there was no way it would work. I broke a 6" piece of green hardwood doing this. The more you fool with it, the worse it gets, always best to stop and figure a way to get a line on it and get it out with some other means. Know when to stop or just stop immediately, it will save you some hard work later. This was not my first stuck tractor, I've seen that since an early age. Worse is throwing a track on a side hill headed to or where it meets the flat with that older of the 2 D7's. Wait til it dries out, get some heavy jacks, rigging, wood cribbing, shovels and some bodies on those shovels. That is some work for sure.

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