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Re: Feeling the need for a bin.


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Posted by Straw Boss on December 02, 2016 at 00:26:40 from (66.35.124.226):

In Reply to: Re: Feeling the need for a bin. posted by notjustair on December 01, 2016 at 20:10:16:

I was just trying to float a few ideas for him to get the most bang for the buck to (A.) Keep initial costs down (B.) Hang onto the equity in the cash spent (C.) Keep long term options open for changes in the operation (D.) Keep labor needed at a minimum (E.) and most important...keep the combine moving.

I have a hard time imagining what some of you guys put up with, with the elevators in your area. I don't know why any elevator would be full at the beginning of harvest. Shouldn't all of their bins be empty?????? I have a half dozen 3,000 bu bins but never use them. It only takes me two truck loads and two hours to harvest 3,000 bu. by myself. Trying to move augers around by myself and the time to fill them would be a colossal waste of time in comparison to the rate of harvest, especially when I have an elevator within 5 to 10 miles depending on the field. I don't know of a single neighbor who has built a bin recently that wasn't at least 30,000 bu. 50,000 bu bins are starting to be more common.

But if a guy wanted to haul to the elevator, they are geared up to take it. Harvest hours are 8:00 am to 8:00 pm. Our local co-op can dump 4 to 5 semis at a time if taking beans and corn at the same time. 250 semis a day is an easy day. 60% of those trucks are pulling pup trailers hauling anywhere from 1500 to 1800 bu. Very seldom is there a waiting line. There are two scales, one to weigh in, another to weigh out, so it's all one way traffic over the scales.

We wave a card in front of a sensor for identification and weighing, all automated so no human error. No getting in and out of the truck. No chattering over a loud speaker or visiting. The elevator employees open and shut your traps. If you get out of your truck, your likely to just slow everyone down. Pick up your ticket at your window again without leaving the truck. Un-tarping the truck and probing the truck for a sample takes the longest time but half the guys have electric tarps so never stop moving until they're under the probe. Ten minutes max in and out to dump a semi and pup if there's no one in front of you and the guy opening your traps is paying attention.

We have 1.2 million bu capacity in the cement elevator. I'm guessing the three steel bins hold another 700,000 ??? Two grain dryers which I don't know the capacity of but they are the round silo looking dryers that are almost as tall as the elevator itself. There are two outdoor piles over pavement with underground unloading conveyors that hold 1.5 million bu each and are filled directly from the elevator. These can both be tarped. And 4 bunkers over pavement that hold 750,000 each. Those get filled with a drive over conveyor and also get tarped. That's a total of 7,900,000 bu. not counting dumping a pile on the ground over dirt if they get desperate.

Add to that, they fill at least two if not three 110 car unit trains a week during harvest. That's nearly half a million bu every time a train leaves town. Then there's another elevator about half as big in the next town 4 miles down the road and an ethanol plant 20 miles south and another ethanol plant 20 miles north along with five or six other large elevators also within that same 20 mile radius. Most of these are co-op elevators. The independent guys are long gone and for a reason. A strong co-op with good leadership will address your needs. An independent guy don't give a hoot if your combine is moving or not so long as his bins are full.


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