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Re: Wack jobs: here we go again


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Posted by oldtanker on February 12, 2019 at 06:22:32 from (66.228.255.59):

In Reply to: Wack jobs: here we go again posted by Northvale PA on February 11, 2019 at 16:46:46:

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Revising history just a bit there Mark? England, Spain and Italy were out of wood. Not from burning it as some environmentalist would have you believe but more from building. Not buildings. They were building the war machines. Mostly fleets.

BCE Italy had depleted the forests. Started with the urge to take control of the Med from Carthage and the wars Rome fought with them from 264 BC to 146 BC. That's over 2000 years ago. Back when some guy was crossing the Alps in the winter with elephants.

By there early 1800's Great Briton was great only because of it's colonies. That requires a great number of ships that were built from? You guessed it, wood.

Meanwhile most of mainland Europe had plenty of wood. Now if you actually look at coal it didn't come into it's own until it was needed to fuel the industrial revolution with England leading the pack! What was used to fuel the new factories was also used to heat and cook on. That's true.

But now today we know the dangers of coal. We also know how to burn it and clean the worst pollutants.

Much as guys like you want to believe it the wind? It ain't going to provide the power we need. Right now a city of 100,000 would require 3 40 square mile wind farms in separate location (that way at least one will have wind) to power the city without pre-planned rolling brown and blackouts. Not practical in any sense. And no, solar can't make up the difference either. So we have steam generation and hydro as the only reliable source of electricity. The tree huggers are are pushing to take out all the dams. As you and your ilk keep claiming there is only some much gas and oil to be taken? So powering electric plants with NG isn't smart in the long run when you need NG for heating and cooking. Running it in cars, trucks and buses is even dumber. No one thinks nuclear is safe enough so what's really the best option right now isn't acceptable. So what to do? Build electric vehicles that are going to suck up even more electricity? That's smart.

Rick


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