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Re: Narrow vs wide fronts?


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Posted by dhermesc on October 04, 2022 at 15:55:03 from (12.149.56.202):

In Reply to: Re: Narrow vs wide fronts? posted by militiaman11 on October 04, 2022 at 15:02:21:

A Farmall M is a very poor substitute for a 460. A Farmall 460 has independent PTO and hydraulics and about 45 HP at the draw bar and most (all?) have power steering. On an M everything stops when you press in the clutch - and an M only has about 28 HP at the drawbar. A Super M has 44 HP at the drawbar - but no IPTO and only a few have independent hydraulics.

The 400/450 are good tractors except they are thirsty and tend to go through a lot fuel no matter what you have them doing. The 560 is the evolution of the 400/450 with a 6 cylinder engine instead of the big 4 cylinder engine. The gas engine in them is fairly economical when used for light duty work (mowing, raking baling) but when pushed hard (plow) will burn more fuel than the 400/450/M. The diesel engine in them is very economical to run but have more than their fair share of head gasket issues. A 460 has the same engines as a 560 only with a smaller displacement in the both the diesel and the gas. While not as economical to run as the H/300/350 they are fuel efficient doing light work but again - the gas version can suck down the fuel when pushed hard.

A narrow front vs a wide front isn't much of an issue except in mud. A narrow front is more tippy than a wide front and it can become very apparent running through a field with a big round bale hanging off the loader on the front of the tractor. My dad owned 4-5 narrow front tractors and had 8 boys run them for years without issue. One brother did roll a tractor on the back side of a terrace - a 656 with a wide front that he thought wouldn't roll because it was a wide front. I noticed it the most cleaning out feedlots - the narrow front would get so clogged with mud that the wheels would quit turning and the tractor was cutting three paths through the mud were a wide front is cutting two.


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