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Re: 5010 vs 5020 John Deere


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Posted by MarkB_MI on January 31, 2023 at 05:54:02 from (96.59.224.67):

In Reply to: Re: 5010 vs 5020 John Deere posted by Stuart on January 31, 2023 at 04:45:46:

> It is evident you have little common sense, farming or tractor experience. You have exposed your ignorance. Do anecdotes have no value? Do you understand how the Nebraska tests are performed? Do you understand the difference between lab results and field results?

The Nebraska tests are carefully controlled so that real-world performance of different tractors can be compared. I'll take them over silly anecdotes any day.

> The 5010/5020 were overweight for the horsepower they had. Look at the weight per hp.

If a 5010 is 'overweight', that can be easily remedied by draining all the ballast out of its tires. Frankly, I don't know anyone who has complained that their tractor was too heavy for its horsepower. In the Real World, weight is good.

I HAVE looked at the power-weight-ratio of the two tractors, but apparently you have not. Going back again to the Nebraska tests:

4020:
Ballasted weight + operator = 13,055 lbs
PTO power = 91.17 hp
Power-to-weight ratio = 91.17 ÷ 13,055 = 0.00698 hp/lb

5010:
Ballasted weight + operator = 17,175 lbs
PTO power = 121.12 hp
Power-to-weight ratio = 121.12 ÷ 17,175 = 0.00705 hp/lb

The difference is roughly one percent. And its lower power-to-weight ratio means the 5010 is able to get just a little bit more of its power to the ground. Race cars, airplanes and rocket ships need a high power-to-weight ratio. Tractors do not. They do not accelerate, they PULL.

> So if you want to call my Dad a liar, go ahead. You are the one looking foolish, not me.

I've said nothing about your father. You brought him up, not me. But if he, like you, believed a 4020 can out-pull a 5010, I'd say he was mistaken.


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