gun guru said: (quoted from post at 09:25:52 03/21/09) Well.....It is like this see---
If you are in your house and a bad guy breaks in what would you do? Ask him to leave or blast him with a shotgun?
Concealed carry is great for folks that work in a bad area, criminals Hate armed citizens, cause they can shoot back.
Keep in mind too that Wisconsin has a relatively low population compared to other states.
I have never been to Wisconsin, I am sure that there are major metro areas, right? What about Milwaukee, or Madison? Where ever there are cities there is crime, especially inner cities where there is blight, drugs, gangs.
Of course some of those homies with the leather coats, gold chains and $200 sneakers go to bible study class------Yeah right.
In Wisconsin you would go to prison for blasting him with a shotgun. Hence my note about reciprocal force laws. Reciprocal force laws (you may not use more force than the subject is using) should by the gun lobby's reasoning make crime rates go even higher. After all not only do you know that the guy in Wisconsin isn't packing, you also know that unless you threaten to shoot him, he can't blast you anyway.
The stats I pulled are per capita by 100,000 residents.
Are you agreeing that the issue of gun crime might actually be tied to population and not to concealed carry?
In terms of arguments for an against gun laws, it is in my opinion important to note that if it can be made more difficult to purchase a weapon illegally (be that due to better security of weapons at home, making it more difficult to obtain them in the first place, a CODIS type system, whatever) that will increase the street price of said weapon. Simple supply and demand works on the street too. Sure the major crime figures will still be able to afford them, but if it keeps the 13 year old wannabe gangster punk down the street from affording something he can stick in the waistband of his sweats then I am all for it.
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