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Re: JD 637 Disc Dillemma Part II (photos)


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Posted by Paul in MN on May 08, 2009 at 17:23:53 from (71.210.130.188):

In Reply to: Re: JD 637 Disc Dillemma Part II (photos) posted by Billy NY on May 08, 2009 at 07:04:13:

Billy,

I've just spent the day doing tillage with a 20 ft field cultivator behind our 1970 Ford 9000 with the duals on. So my brain is a bit scrambled. As my son said, that old tractor just did as nice a job of seedbed prep as a newer $100,000 tractor would have done. Much of the difference is a really quiet cab and an air seat suspension, so for big payments you get creature comforts, but the soil doesn't care what pulled cultivator. And the soybeans don't care what color the tractor is.

Just a thought about your welding experiences. My experience as a good and capable farmer (and I have taught some basic welding classes), but not as a professional welder, is that the 7018 is very hard to make a nice looking vertical weld. It does not "focus" the heat the same way the 6011 does and does not give the weld puddle a quick "freeze" characteristic. The molten bead wants to run and may freeze and stick after it has run a bit. Thus the big globs that form from the drips. If you run that 7018 with AC, the vertical problem is even much worse. There is a magnetic field created by the arc, and with AC the magnetic field is constantly changing direction following the 60 cycle power. This throws the molten metal all over with a great deal of spatter.

One trick an old time welder/blacksmith showed me is the use of the 6011 to make the deep penetrating "root" pass in a "v-ed out" thick metal repair. It tends to boil off some of the carbon and crap which is in the base metal. Then build your stronger 7018 weld on top with succeeding passes. Now you get the penetration and better first pass weld control and the higher strength and better final look of the 7018 for your finish product.

The 7018 does not have the penetration and tolerance for rust, paint, oil, grease that the 6011 does. Besides the 7018 is hard to start the arc unless you have ground out a real clean area to weld on. I am not trying to sell you on either one, because they are the 2 most common rods I use for our equipment repair. I also have a 250 amp MIG setup (with 75/25 argon/CO2) which gets the most use. The mig is easier to start the arc and mulitple passes do not need any chipping. But the mig likes cleaner metal and the 70 series wire gives good strength, but does not give the penetration the 6011 rod does. So each has its advantages and disadvantages. Getting familiar with them all will make you a better welder. With the mig available, I see no use for ever burning another 6013 rod...and I have 10 to 20 lbs of 6013 on the shelf. I used to use it prior to the mig purchase.

I should bring fuel to my son who is still planting soybeans. We expect rain tonight and the soil is just right for planting. He was on the field till midnight last evening and started before 7 this morning. Besides he works full time AND passed a 5mm kidney stone late yesterday. He didn't have time to be hurting, so was running equipment while loaded up with Vicaden. I was worried about him making some nasty mistake while running equipment and being drugged up at the same time. I used to have that kind of drive, but there isn't enough energy left in this 63 year old body for that much abuse.

Take care, and have fun with the welding!!

Paul in MN


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