Posted by JML755 on June 12, 2009 at 06:26:02 from (66.184.63.110):
In Reply to: Unions posted by trucker40 on June 11, 2009 at 21:59:05:
Unions had their place at one time. However, today we have federal OSHA, state OSHA, child labor laws, etc. to protect workers and provide a safe environment. Our non-union shop is just as safe and fair as any Union shop but without a Union guy walking around with a contract in his back pocket looking for grievance filers. Getting paid, by the way. I knew a union rep who, by contract, could be in the plant, on the clock, any time a worker was there. This guy was in the plant 7 days a week 10-14 hrs a day, doing nothing. Sleeping most of the time. Producing nothing of value for the company. Explain to me how that is right, fair or moral.
If unions were so great, companies would be fighting to build plants in states where they are strong (Michigan for instance). Look where the transplants set up shop: in right-to-work states.
relaurain is right. Unionists are socialists, pushing for the re-distribution of wealth. The owners of the companies are classified as "evil", "greedy", when in fact it is they who put up the capital and take on risk to start the business. The unionists risk nothing. They wrap themselves in their contract and even when the company is in jeopardy, they fight and resist every effort to make the company profitable. This has been evidenced by resistance to concessions in the GM and Chrysler cases. Furthermore, individual effort is looked down upon in a union environment and anyone who provides something of value to the company outside of the contract (like working through a break or helping someone with their job) is ostracized and villified for their "company" attitude.
No, unions are dinosaurs whose useful days are long gone. If the best that trucker40 can do to justify unions is to bring up stuff that happened 75-100 yrs ago, LOL, that pretty much says it all.
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