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Re: building a loft in my pole barn


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Posted by jdemaris on September 26, 2010 at 09:52:16 from (67.142.130.28):

In Reply to: Re: building a loft in my pole barn posted by Billy NY on September 26, 2010 at 08:48:32:

Couldn't do some of it without a backhoe around (when working by myself). I'm also 60 years old and only weigh around 160 lbs. A bigger person could do more then I do.

CCA treated poles are the best of the the "experiments" over the years. And, CCA is still perfectly legal except in exposed residential use. The problem is, finding anyone that stocks it anymore.

The new chemical treatment is extremely corrosive to steel and aluminum. Thus the need for special hardware. Electro-plate galvanized not permitted. If galvanized, it must be hot-dipped.

One other thing to watch for. Most 6" X 6" treated poles sold as 10 foot or shorter, are NOT propertly treated for sticking in the ground. I found out that even many lumber yards don't realize this. So, let's say you need an 8 footer. You usually have to buy something over 10 foot and cut it down. A 16 footer works out nicely to make two.

I've had many problems in central New York getting the correct stuff. Just about none sold at Home Depot or Stock lumbe is. But, recently I was trying to buy poles for a pole-barn in northern Michigan. I told the guy I wanted a dozen 12 foot 6"X6"s for sticking in the ground. When I told him my concerns, he laughed at me like I was a clueless fool. Well?? Guess what. We walked out in his yard and checked his treatment labels. Even his 14 footers weren't treated for in-ground use. He was quite surprised. If the poles say "ground contact", that means they are NOT treated properly. "Contact" means touching the ground, but not stuck into it.

By the way, you are dead-on with the four-floor not being allowed. Long story how I did it. Basically, when it comes to my own properties, I am a chronic law-breaker (or bender). Main thing is, veer away from residential code when possible, and stay with farm or "hunting cabin" codes.


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