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Re: grrr.........my chrysler rant for today


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Posted by JML755 on January 19, 2011 at 05:18:26 from (66.184.63.110):

In Reply to: grrr.........my chrysler rant for today posted by Fordfarmer on January 18, 2011 at 14:32:05:

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:lol: :lol: Yeah, Al Gore, the Sierra Club and other tree huggers have made such a noise that all the Auto Makers climbed on the bandwagon. Electric cars are NOT cost competitive with gasoline (yet). And OUR government is subsidizing their purchase with $8k of YOUR money. And even at that, they'll only be able to make a small dent in gasoline consumption as you can't get enough battery power in them to drive long distances. You can't just pull into a gas station on the Interstate and "fill em up" with electricity in 5 minutes and be on your way, like you can with gasoline. So, look at all the cars (and trucks) traveling on the highways more than 40 miles per trip and that's how much gasoline we'll still need. I think I read somewhere that if we replaced ALL of the in-town, short hop commuting that was feasible to do with electric, it would only be about 25% or so of the gasoline consumption. Could be wrong on the exact number but it sure wasn't getting rid of all of our gasoline. Also, to go that route, you will need to have either an expensive hybrid OR have 2 vehicles, one for in-town, one for long distance. How is THAT more cost effective?

And even if we did reduce gasoline consumption even 25%, do you think the price will go down? :lol: :lol: No, it will go UP. As an example of this principle, the Detroit Water Dept has been pushing conservation for years (even though it's supply comes from the Great Lakes which has 20% of the world's fresh water). Well, as consumption has dropped, the Water Dept is RAISING it's rates because the decrease in consumption has reduced it's revenue (duh) and it needs the money to maintain infrastructure. So, we're paying MORE for LESS even though the supply hasn't changed. Just the demand was reduced. The same will happen with gasoline. The oil companies will argue they need to charge MORE for a gallon of gas if we use less because they still need the refineries, pipelines, etc. to make it at a reduced efficiency.

Solution? My personal favorite is to focus development of hydrogen fuel cells. It's portable and infrastructure is there. We would just need to convert existing gas stations to hydrogen. Subsidize (if we need to), hydrogen production by building nuclear power plants for the electricity to make it. Price would be a lot more stable than oil.

Biggest problem with that are the tree huggers, EPA, NIMBYs etc. that oppose nuclear power.


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