Ok you guys are really getting into the debate of velocity/energy/ Taylor KO (TKO).......
So .22 long, high velocity..........1260 FPS and 140 ft lbs of energy....no taylor rating.
.25 50 grain FMJ velocity 760FPS (+-) 65 ft lbs of energy and taylor TKO of 1.4
357 mag 158 grain JHP velocity 1240FPS, 535 ft lbs and TKO 10.0
380 95 grain JHP velocity 955FPS, 192 ft lbs and TKO of 4.6
9MM luger 115 grain JHP velocity 1225FPS, 383 ft lbs and TKO of 7.2
40 Smith 180 grain JHP velocity 1000FPS, 400 ft lbs and TKO of 10.3
10 MM 180 grain JHP velocity 1030FPS, 425 ft lbs and TKO of 10.6
45 ACP 185 grain JHP velocity 1000 FPS, 411 Ft lbs and a TKO of 11.9
These are just examples. The arguement about bullet placement goes out the window when the traget is shooting back. You guys should also look up one shot stops ratios. You may be suprised at what you find.
I also find it interesting that while carrying a .45 as a side arm in the military we were taught one shot one kill but when they switched over to the 9MM we were told to double tap.
Yer never going to convinve someone who likes carrying a small lite pistol that it isn't up to the task if needed. Nor are you going to convence me that my .45 ACP is too much.
Kinda like the 5.56 arguement. Combat soldiers have hit bad guys in the chest at 100 yards and failed to put them down. My son who completed infantry training this spring told me they are teaching double tap with the rifle now. Then you read where a general says 70% of the troops love the M16/M4 rifles.......70% of soldiers do their fighting with key board and tool boxes....thats right, 70% are support troops.
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