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Re: Engine Historians Out There?


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Posted by DB4600 on July 25, 2017 at 08:10:18 from (174.219.13.137):

In Reply to: Engine Historians Out There? posted by riverslim on July 24, 2017 at 06:58:03:

I'm not claiming to be an expert, but here it goes. Antique power just had an article about CASE's early tractor attempts and the so called Patterson tractor because of the engine being a copy of the Patterson engine which was designed in California by the Paterson brothers. The later attempt at the successful tractor seemed to have Case power but was a frame built by Minneapolis. Shortly after in the teens and twenties CASE was all in house. Now I do recall a link between CASE, Massey, and Wallis.

There were a lot of tractors built in the Midwest in the early tractor years and a lot of those had similarities because the competing companies would hire away or a designer would move on after a failed attempt at a company. I believe the Bull used a Gile engine as did the off brand Ford built in. All of those companies had ties to Minneapolis and likely had some of the same engineering so the both used components familiar to the designer. I have read that two men started the Transit Thresher Company in Minneapolis. The developed the Big 4 and later sold to Emmerson Brantingham. The two men went on to Bull which turned into TORO. One of the men went onto Happy Farmer who merged with STA-RITE engine company and used a in house engine similar to that Gile called a La Crosse.

I know some of the early MM/ TC's used Waukesha, but others of the same period used MM engines. I recall reading an article years back that pointed out the similarity of the early HOLT engine and the Twin City engines. Buda was used by some builders up to and even after Allis Chalmers bought Buda. The later years saw Detroits and Cats used in some models as well.

C.H. Wendel's book "Encyclopedia of American Farm Tractors" does a good job of detailing a lot of those connections and details.


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